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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2019 - Q3
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Operator

Good afternoon. My name is Bridgette, and I’ll be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Cambium Networks Third Quarter 2019 Financial Results Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers’ remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session.

[Operator Instructions] Thank you. Mr. Peter Schuman, Senior Director of Investor Relations, you may begin your conference..

Peter Schuman Senior Director of Investor & Industry Analyst Relations

Thank you, Bridgette. Welcome, and thank you for joining us today for Cambium Networks’ third quarter 2019 financial results conference call, and welcome to all those joining by webcast. Atul Bhatnagar, our President and CEO; and Stephen Cumming, our CFO, are here for today’s call.

The earnings release referenced on this call is accessible on the investor page of our website and has been submitted on a current report on Form 8-K with the SEC. A copy of today’s prepared remarks will also be available on our investor page at the conclusion of this call.

As a reminder, today’s remarks, including those made during Q&A, will contain forward-looking statements about the Company’s outlook and expected performance. These statements are based on current expectations, forecasts and assumptions. Risks and uncertainties could cause actual results to differ materially.

Except as required by law, Cambium Networks does not undertake any obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements for any reason after the date of this presentation, whether as a result of new information, future developments, to conform these statements to actual results or to make changes in Cambium’s expectations or otherwise.

It is Cambium Networks policy to not reiterate our financial outlook. I encourage listeners to review the full list of risk factors included in the Safe Harbor statement in today’s financial results press release.

We will also reference both GAAP and non-GAAP financial measures and specifically note that all sequential and year-over-year comparisons reference GAAP numbers except where otherwise noted.

A reconciliation of non-GAAP measures to GAAP is included in the appendix to today’s financial results press release, which can be found on the investor page of our website and in today’s press release announcing our results.

Now, on to the agenda, Cambium Networks President and CEO, Atul Bhatnagar, will provide the key investment highlights for the quarter, and Stephen Cumming, Cambium Networks CFO, will provide a recap of the financial results for the third quarter 2019, which we will reference as Q3 2019, and reference past quarters as Q2 2019 for the second quarter 2019 and Q3 2018 for the third quarter of 2018.

We will provide our financial outlook for the fourth quarter of 2019, which we will reference as Q4 2019, and fiscal year 2019 and fiscal year 2020, which we will we reference as FY 2019 and FY 2020. Our prepared remarks will be followed by a Q&A session. I’d now like to turn the call over to Atul..

Atul Bhatnagar

the introduction of 60 GHz and 28 GHz millimeter wave solutions, global tier-two and tier-three service providers deploying fix-wireless broadband enabled by the adoption of fixed 5G, and Wi-Fi 6 acceleration from the Xirrus acquisition. These drivers give us confidence into our future growth.

I will now turn the call over to Stephen for a review of our Q3 2019 financial results..

Stephen Cumming

GAAP revenues between $63 million to $66 million. GAAP gross margin between 48% to 49.4%; and non-GAAP gross margin between 48.2% to 49.5%.

GAAP operating income between $1.2 million to $2.4 million; and non-GAAP operating income between $2.4 million to $3.6 million GAAP net loss between $1 million to break-even or between a loss of $0.04 and break-even per diluted share; and non-GAAP net income between $800,000 to $1.7 million or between $0.03 and $0.07 per diluted share.

Adjusted EBITDA between $3.4 million to $4.5 million, or adjusted EBITDA margin of between 5.3% to 6.9%. GAAP taxes between 19% to 21%; and a non-GAAP effective tax rate of approximately 17% to 19%. And you could assume approximately 25.6 million weighted average shares outstanding. Turning to our cash requirements.

Pay down of debt of $2.4 million, interest expense approximately $1.4 million and capital expenditures of $1 million to $1.1 million. In conclusion, growth and profitability remain our number one core value.

Cambium Networks is well positioned for growth and the wireless space offers a tremendous opportunity for Cambium to innovate and deliver this core value. We have the right team and technologies to do this, and we remain committed to delivering our double-digit adjusted EBITDA target. That concludes our prepared remarks.

So with that, I’d like to turn the call over to Bridgette to begin the Q&A session..

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Rod Hall with Goldman Sachs. Your line is open..

RK Rajagopal

This is RK on behalf of Rod. Thanks for taking my questions. I wanted to ask about your Q4 revenue guidance. You mentioned weakness in U.S. Fed as well as in Asia.

Are these the same factors driving the weakness in Q4? And could you also talk about how much visibility you have into each segment looking ahead?.

Stephen Cumming

Yes, this is Stephen. So I think for Q4, normal seasonality for us is generally flat to 2% sequentially. So the midpoint of our guidance, as you heard, we would be down about 2% sequentially, which is obviously below our normal seasonal view. I think in terms of the Fed business, most of this is U.S. Fed.

So the North America, it certainly impacted in Q3. We did expect that to pick up actually a little bit in Q3. We expect to come back, so we do expect North America overall to grow a little bit.

I think what’s really impacting us for Q4, specifically EMEA that had tremendously strong growth for us, both Q1 and Q2, in particular, and now you’ve heard from our results for Q3, really driven by strong growth in enterprise from our niche channel model and also geo expansion as we’ve added into new countries like Middle East and Africa, but we expect that to be, I would say, a little bit softer, and that’s a bit seasonally softer.

For EMEA, a lot of our customers and distributors like to delve back of inventory and manage their assets and balance sheet at the end of the year. So that’s impacting us a little bit.

I think additionally, on top of that, from an APAC perspective, we do expect that to grow a little bit, but we’re seeing still a little bit of slowness coming out from those government-sponsored programs that we do expect to materialize in the first half of 2020, but that’s causing a little bit of headwind for us..

Atul Bhatnagar

Yes. Maybe I can just add one more point. These are programs, many of them actually Cambium has won. We have done the POCs. We have delivered the solution, and the customer love the solutions.

But the funding of the program, especially when it’s government sponsored, whether it’s Southeast Asia or whether it’s North American federal programs, sometimes the funding gets a little delayed.

So I anticipate that these are programs where we are very well positioned because in many of them, they want point-to-point products and many of them, they want Cambium-specific technologies, combining the fixed wireless broadband, different technologies. And yet, we know we need to deal with the timeliness of these things.

Sometimes, we anticipate something coming in one quarter, it will slide into next. But these are POCs we have won them, and we are very confident that these deals will be there. Timing-wise, we may have to be a little flexible..

RK Rajagopal

Thanks for all that color. Apologies for the noise at my end. I wanted to ask about CAF II spending. I think you were talking about growth next year. But hearing from wireline access providers that the peak happened last year.

So could you give us more color on that?.

Atul Bhatnagar

I think the CAF II funding, there is about $1.5 billion funding, which is being released, which will be disbursed, as I said, over the next many years. And there are requirements, there are SLAs, which have been tied to some of this funding.

These are service-level agreements, which requires quality, which requires very specific upload and download speeds. And as we work with the customers, what they tell us is, the reason they’re selecting Cambium Networks versus a lower-quality solution, and there are choices.

It’s because with Cambium solutions, they can showcase the SLAs very crisply before they get the money as part of CAF II. So overall, I think – and then we have closed a couple of very good deals and where there are thousands of subscribers being added.

And when I ask the customers, why did you buy Cambium, they always say, well, now the next set of requirements in the SLA are pretty stringent, and anyone who doesn’t have good management, good quality, good affordability will not be able to satisfy the needs..

RK Rajagopal

Thanks..

Operator

All right. Our next question comes from the line of George Iwanyc with Oppenheimer. Your line is open..

George Iwanyc

Thank you for taking my question. So digging into kind of the headwinds that you’re seeing near-term.

Are you seeing any price pressure or any competitive pressures across the various regions?.

Atul Bhatnagar

George, no. We – our ASPs actually are pretty stable. And the reason for that is, we do not go after the low end of the market. We are very focused on mid-sized enterprises, mid-sized service providers. And over every year, we add features and differentiation, like Massive MUMIMO technologies we added. So ASP price-wise, no, we do not get pressure.

And on the enterprise Wi-Fi side, we have a very strong combination of affordability, yet quality. And that’s why we are gaining the share, that’s why we are growing in a triple digit year-over-year, and I anticipate that growth will continue..

Stephen Cumming

Good. And remember, George, we don’t go after the Tier 1 service provider. So that actually gives us a lot more pricing power when it comes to our products..

George Iwanyc

Okay. And really briefly on the third quarter weakness, was it primarily the U.S.

Fed that surprised you? Or did you start to see a little bit of weakness in other regions already during the quarter?.

Atul Bhatnagar

No, third quarter, I think, primarily with Southeast Asia government broadband initiatives at that time, and….

George Iwanyc

Particularly, in Q3 evidenced more on the....

Atul Bhatnagar

Yes, in Q3, I think the federal weakness, definitely we saw. And as I explained, these are programs, their funding is the one we have to secure. And in parts of the program, we have actually supplied the solutions in last year as well as this year. So we anticipate that the program will continue probably for good year or two years.

But it’s the funding for the program, which – where we saw some delay..

George Iwanyc

Okay.

And just as my second question, the restructuring that you’re planning, is this kind of balanced across the various parts of the company? Or are you targeting specific areas for the savings?.

Atul Bhatnagar

No, pretty balanced across the company. And by and large, yes, I wouldn’t say, there’s any specific territory we are targeting..

Stephen Cumming

No, I would say it’s OpEx, in general, it’s – it makes up about 6% of our workforce. I think we should emphasize that these cuts don’t affect our product roadmap or any of our growth trajectories. And obviously, we’ve made improvements along the way anyway in terms of our overall operational efficiencies.

This is another step of getting to our EBITDA targets..

George Iwanyc

Thank you..

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Simon Leopold with Raymond James. Your line is open..

Simon Leopold

Great. Thank you very much. I wanted to just maybe step back, big picture. It sounds like many of the issues you’ve referred to in terms of the 3Q, 4Q can be described as timing issues, but some of them sound like maybe a little bit shifts in the macroeconomic environment.

And so I just want to get a sense of how this might affect your thinking on 2020? So while I know you’re not providing a full forecast for 2020 consensus, I think, before this call was roughly $320 million.

Should we think of some of this business slipping in as a tailwind and dropping into 2020, leading to upside? Or do we think of everything sliding out in time? Thank you..

Atul Bhatnagar

Thanks, Simon. When I look at 2020 and 2021, there are three or four very key things, which are happening in the industry, which I’ll share, which gives me confidence. Number one, starting probably mid-2020, you will see LAN/WAN convergence wirelessly.

What I mean by that is, for the first time in communications history, the speeds of the LAN and WAN using wireless technologies will be at a point where wires can be replaced, especially on the edge – especially the last 10-kilometers after that you connect fiber or whatever you want. So the edge will go wireless more and more.

And the reason for that is you have Wi-Fi 6 coming, which will provide gigabit speeds in the last 0.5 kilometer. And then you have 60 gigahertz mesh technology coming, which will provide the last 2 kilometer, 3 kilometers. And then you have 28 gigahertz coming behind that for the last 6, 7 kilometers.

So I think this entire LAN/WAN convergence opens up a very good opportunity for Cambium. It’s difficult to predict how much of that will happen in 2020, how much of that will happen in 2021, but it will start, I think mid-2020 because ax products will be out, and the 60 gigahertz will be out. So that’s one.

Second, the Tier 2 and Tier 3 service providers are innovative across the world. They are the ones who don’t have the money to buy very expensive spectrum, but they are very much looking at fixed wireless broadband, fixed 5G, the technologies I’m describing, to really start to offer the next-generation speeds and feeds. So we are seeing that as well.

And 2020, 2021, you’ll see that acceleration. And then CAF II funding, we also believe, along with CBRS in North America, to propel fixed wireless broadband. And Cambium Networks is actually focused on fixed wireless broadband as a main-stage solution, main-stage product line. So we are emerging as a strong player, premier player now in that segment.

So as these Tier 2, Tier 3 service providers globally adopt more and more fixed wireless broadband, I think you’ll see us gain unfair share in that acceleration.

And the last point I want to make is, our enterprise push started as a concentric circle from fixed wireless broadband, but the value Cambium created with affordable yet high-quality Wi-Fi is now going deeper into education and hospitality. And that’s why we – you are seeing 132% year-over-year growth or 20% sequential growth, that will continue.

When we were on the road, we said, Wi-Fi will grow 40% to 70%. At this point, I think we will say this year will probably more like 70%....

Stephen Cumming

The upper end of our range..

Atul Bhatnagar

Upper – yes, upper end of our range. So overall, I think these are the three, four things when I look at next two years that tells me we are building the right products, the right solutions. There might be quarter, there might be softness in pockets here and there, but the secular drivers remain strong.

So I would not say there’s anything macro, I am seeing, which worries us. There are some government programs, which might delay here and there, but we don’t see if there is anything big macro..

Simon Leopold

Appreciate that. And then follow-up, hopefully, an easy one. Just want to get the federal government in context.

What is sort of the typical percent of revenue you would expect from federal, either in the third quarter, which I assume is seasonally strong? And just if you look at, kind of, rolling four quarters, what’s normal federal contributions? Thank you..

Stephen Cumming

Yes, Simon, just a quick answer that I would say it’s probably around – percentage-wise, probably high single digit to – varies to low double digits, roughly so as fed for us..

Simon Leopold

And in the third quarter?.

Stephen Cumming

Yes, it was quite a bit down from that. It was mid-single digits at least or possibly less..

Simon Leopold

Great. Thank you for that..

Stephen Cumming

Thank you..

Operator

And our next question is from the line of Paul Coster with JPMorgan. Your line is open..

Paul Coster

Yes, thanks for taking my question. I guess, it seems like more than just delays here, you’ve got three quarters now of decelerating growth if you include the fourth quarter guidance. And what’s sort of particularly difficult to kind of make sense of this that this is all happening against the backdrop of a positive narrative from your end.

You’re adding channel, which would normally mean that the growth is even easier to come by because you’re kind of – you’ve got some channel inventory building. So I guess I’m sort of a little confused.

And maybe as you sort of talk about the trend here and why we shouldn’t worry about the trend? Perhaps, you can also talk about these new channel partners, are they just very small and, therefore, no consequence?.

Atul Bhatnagar

Yes. So Paul, I’ll give my commentary and then if Stephen wants to add. So I think the channel partners we are adding, many of the channel partners are for the mid-tier enterprises. So that’s basically beginning to generate a run rate on the enterprise side of things. And it doesn’t make massive shift in one quarter.

But over quarters, we start to see a good run rate in education or hospitality or large public venues. So the channel partner increase is a result of the Xirrus acquisition as well as some of the mid-channel recruiting we have been focused on.

And in terms of the softness we see, very specifically, I think we’d see that in that federal and the government spending side of things. Otherwise, rest of the stuff, I don’t see anything big macro or anything which we need to call out.

And Stephen, anything you want to add there?.

Stephen Cumming

No. I mean, I think to your comments on the mid-channel, obviously, that’s very clear in our results with regards to the very strong growth in enterprise. You saw our Wi-Fi business sequentially grew another 20%. It was up year-on-year 132%. So – and that’s really coming out in terms of our European region and North America.

So I do think this is more isolated pockets of both federal and what we mentioned last quarter with regards to the government-sponsored programs in Southeast Asia. These are deals that are very active, but they’re bigger deals, and they’re just tougher at this point in time to forecast.

So with that, and specifically in our guidance, we’ve said that they’re more likely than not to be a early part of the first half of 2020, and we build that into our guidance..

Paul Coster

Okay.

One quick follow-up on the federal delay, is it a civilian application or a DoD-type application that sort of delay?.

Atul Bhatnagar

Paul, defense..

Paul Coster

Defense, yes. Okay..

Atul Bhatnagar

And as I said earlier, we have delivered. We have the solutions. And it’s the funding element, and the solutions we have delivered will actually go on for probably another two years is my guess..

Paul Coster

Thank you..

Atul Bhatnagar

Thank you, Paul..

Operator

And our next question is from the line of Erik Suppiger with JMP. Your line is open..

Erik Suppiger

Yes. Thanks for taking the question.

First off, on the Wi-Fi front, can you break out what was organic versus inorganic? And then secondly, do – would you have any sense for market share? Do you think that any of your peers, like Ubiquiti, would be impacted by some of the dynamics that you had in the quarter? Or do you think that you lost any market share in the quarter?.

Atul Bhatnagar

Eric, let me address it, and I’ll pass it to Stephen if he wants to add. On the Wi-Fi front, most of the growth is organic, but you will see some of the – I think, the strong Xirrus contributions coming in as we go into ax conversions next year, in 2020. We absolutely anticipate that.

Secondly, with respect to the competition, I would say, it’s very difficult to comment on a specific company. We are taking share as a company, both in fixed wireless broadband as well as in Wi-Fi. And that’s important what I’m saying.

When you – as you talk to the fixed wireless broadband customers, we have continued to stay loyal to that segment because we believe that fixed 5G will only accelerate that. So our innovations, in especially Massive MUMIMO and 60 gigahertz, all the things we’re working on. We believe in that.

So that will pay dividends, I think, in 2020 and 2021 as wireless LAN/WAN convergence, which I described, happens and as wireless fabric takes over the last 10 kilometers. That is number one. Secondly, with respect to the Wi-Fi, I’m not sure how much others are seeing the level of growth.

We are seeing because we have created a strong solution, which combines fixed wireless broadband for backhaul, which is very superior in outdoor and which has a phenomenal cloud single pane of glass. Those are the three things customers are loving about our Wi-Fi solutions.

So overall, what I would say is that market share-wise, we are gaining market share in Wi-Fi. We are on, as we’ve mentioned, Gartner Magic Quadrant, Forrester report as well, those are good things. And we see good things coming, both in fixed wireless broadband and Wi-Fi combination.

And this is why we say Cambium offers wireless fabric for the last – those 10 kilometers with a complete wireless backhaul. That entire solution I’m describing, I think, bodes well for both 2020 and 2021 as edge goes wireless..

Erik Suppiger

Very good, thank you..

Atul Bhatnagar

Thanks, Erik..

Operator

And our next question comes from the line of Brian Yun with Deutsche Bank. Your line is open..

Brian Yun

Hey, guys. I had a question on margins. Can you maybe go over the levers in the model during volatile revenue periods? It looks like your gross margins and EBITDA stayed relatively intact this quarter, but the guide for Q4 is under the street.

So how should we think about your ability to, sort of, maintain margins during these times of volatility?.

Stephen Cumming

Yes. I mean, you can see that we’ve made continual progression in our gross margin expansion. As a company, we spent a lot of time on our gross margin improvement plan. And clearly, they’re materializing in our results. Our goal really is to achieve gross margins of greater than 50% – at the lower end of that 50%. And we’re really doing that.

We spend a lot of time on driving some pretty aggressive cost-reduction programs around our products. And the company hadn’t really done too much of that in the past. We spent a lot of time over the last nine months driving that. And I think that’s giving us quite a bit of coverage and improvement in our overall gross margin.

Additionally, supply chain efficiencies are going to help us. And we have moved pricing and passed that – and pass it on to our customers, partly in light of some of the tariffs, but also just much more price management. And so I think really what’s going to be a bigger swing factor for us as we go forward is we see really substantial changes in mix.

But you should expect on a reasonably consistent basis that our gross margins continue to improve. We might have the occasional quarter where it drops a little, but you should see steady gross margin improvement, driven by those three initiatives; cost reduction from a product side, pricing management and supply chain efficiencies..

Atul Bhatnagar

Let me just add one more point, Brian. One of the things we do with our new product design, we use merchant silicon. And as we use merchant silicon, we are constantly making sure that the software content, the software RF algorithms are the key drivers of our performance, and we drive the hardware cost down as much as we can.

So you’ll also see Cambium new products like 60 gigahertz and some of the ax products we’re working on to drive good, strong gross margins. So it’s not just cost reductions, those are important. But I think the design aspect also is something we pay attention.

And the last point I want to make is that in the first half of 2020, you’ll also start to see software monetization from Cambium, and that would be our cnMaestro, which is now in about 330,000 or so devices under management. You’ll see that the journey will start. And also, Xirrus acquisition brought us good subscription technology.

So as we are going to start working with their customers, you’ll see the subscription part of Cambium story will also start in first half of 2020..

Brian Yun

Great, thank you..

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And I’m not showing any further questions. So I’ll now turn the call back over to Mr. Peter Schuman, Senior Director, Investor Relations, for closing remarks..

Peter Schuman Senior Director of Investor & Industry Analyst Relations

Thank you..

Atul Bhatnagar

Yes. Before we end the call, I want to say, kind of, a few things, and then I’ll pass it to Peter. We are totally committed as a management team to deliver double-digit EBITDA and strong growth. And as I described, as I look at 2020, 2021, we feel good about the drivers, the solutions we have.

And expenses-wise, we run the company very judiciously, making sure our expenses are in line. So you will always see us making sure that our cost structure is adjusted properly, always to deliver good profitability.

So when I look at the long-term model, which we described, we still have a lot of confidence in our long-term model, which was 14% to 17% growth, double-digit EBITDA and increasing 200 basis points every year. So some of the actions we are taking right now is to make sure even if there’s some softness, we have a strong profitability as a company.

So with that, Peter, I’ll pass it to you..

Peter Schuman Senior Director of Investor & Industry Analyst Relations

During Q4 2019, Cambium Networks will be presenting and meeting with investors in New York on November 12 at the Needham Networking & Security Conference. In the meantime, you’re always welcome to contact our Investor Relations Department at (847) 264-2188 with any questions that arise. Thank you for joining us, and this concludes today’s call..

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes today’s quarterly earnings call. Thank you for your participation. You may now log off..

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