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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2023 - Q4
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Operator

Good afternoon, and welcome to the ClearSign Technology fourth quarter and full-year 2023 conference call. [Operator Instructions]. I will now like to turn the conference over to Matthew Selinger of Firm IR Group. Please, go ahead..

Matthew Selinger

Good afternoon, and thank you, operator. Welcome, everyone, to the ClearSign Technologies Corporation fourth quarter and full-year 2023 results conference call. During this conference call, the company will make forward-looking statements. Any statement that is not a statement of historical fact is a forward-looking statement.

This includes remarks about the company's projections, expectations, plans, beliefs, and prospects.

These statements are based on judgments and analysis as of the date of this conference call and are subject to numerous important risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those described in the forward-looking statements.

The risks and uncertainties associated with the forward-looking statements made in this conference call include, but are not limited to, whether field testing and sales of ClearSign's products will be successfully completed, whether ClearSign will be successful in expanding the market for its products, and other risks that are describing ClearSign's public periodic filings with the SEC, including the discussion in the Risk Factors section of the 2023 Annual Report on Form 10-K for the period ended December 31, 2023.

Though as except as required by law, ClearSign assumes no responsibility to update these forward-looking statements to reflect future events or actual outcomes and does not intend to do so. On the call with me today are Jim Deller, ClearSign's Chief Executive Officer; and Brent Hinds, ClearSign's Chief Financial Officer.

At this point in the call, I would like to turn the call over to CFO, Brent Hinds. So, Brent, please go ahead..

Brent Hinds

one, an underwritten written public offering, and the second, a concurrent private placement. If we add the net proceeds to our 2023 year-end balance sheet, we would have reported approximately $13.7 million in cash and cash equivalents after this raise.

A more detailed description of these offerings is included in our current report on Form 8-K filed with the SEC last Friday, April 19. This added working capital gives us more flexibility, as we execute our commercial growth plans. And Jim will give more specifics about this and the use of this capital.

Now, I'd like to shift and discuss our 2023 year-end financial results. As a reminder, I'd like to point out that our financial results were included in our annual report on Form 10-K, which was filed with the SEC on April 1.

For the fourth quarter of 2023, the company recognized approximately $1.3 million in revenues, compared to $50,000 for the same comparable period in 2022. I do want to make a keynote about our fourth-quarter 2023 results. We reported gross profit margin of 43.9%, which was 12.8% increase compared to our prior year gross margin.

This increase was primarily driven by shipments of our process burners. For our full-year 2023 results, our revenues amounted to $2.4 million compared to $374,000 for the same period in 2022. This was a 642% increase over the prior year.

The year-over-year increase in revenues was driven in large part by our two ongoing California refinery process burner projects. Now, I'd like to shift focus from revenue to cash. Our net cash used in operations for the quarter ended December 31, 2023, was approximately $1.5 million, compared to approximately $1 million for the same period in 2022.

This $500,000 year-over-year increase was driven by project execution costs. Now, turning our focus from cash to the income statement. Our net loss for the fourth quarter in 2023 was approximately $1 million, which is a favorable decrease of $300,000 compared to the same period in 2022.

Net loss for the full-year 2023 was approximately $5.2 million, which is approximately a $500,000 decrease year over year, compared to the prior year net loss of $5.8 million. This year-over-year decrease was predominantly due to our overall increase in gross profit and increased sales volume.

From a financial perspective, we believe we are much better positioned to scale projects and partnerships. Set differently, this capital raise has bolstered our balance sheet and we believe this will instill greater confidence in our customers and suppliers when doing business with us.

And with that, I'd like to turn the call over to our CEO, Jim Deller.

Jim?.

Jim Deller

California and the federal EPA. The expectation is that once established in California, the data will roll up to the federal national level.

So why is this important? Firstly, this assessment was made considering all equipment operation in California, so providing the technology that sets what is designated the best performance is a meaningful achievement. Additionally, this test equipment has to be operational long term to be considered.

And the recommendations go through a process of public and industry review and comment, which further validates the reliability of our solutions.

And going forwards, we believe that this will set a guide for all future regulations, permit applications, not only in California, but also referenced for other states as they develop and update their NOx regulations.

In the near term, this determination is a great validation of our technology in the industry, providing another data point for our prospective customers who understand the great value of what we provide, but also looking for comfort in other operating reference units before committing to a technology that is not yet familiar to them or something they are used to.

Since we last spoke, we have completed the installations start-up of our two most significant process heaters to date. These heaters are side by side one fitted with eight burners, which has completed first, and this was included in our press release on January 17, announcing the successful third-party performance test for this heater.

And the second fitted with five burners was retrofitted late March and was tested earlier this month. We are waiting for the official third-party confirmation, but our observations of the formal testing give us confidence to believe that our emissions were comfortably below our guarantees.

We believe these installations are meaningful as references for us, but also the revenue the projects provide. Beyond that, I believe that what we have achieved here will receive attention in our technical customer community. The fuel gas on this application varies from almost 0% to 80% hydrogen, and the burners operate throughout that range.

In addition, the firing is so intense in one of the heaters that it is double of the industry recommended level. We did our understanding that this client initially sought a back-end catalytic cleanup system, commonly known as an SCR, due to the technical needs and demands of these heaters.

But given the complexity and magnitude of that solution, the client changed its course and selected a ClearSign solution instead. We believe that by successfully completing these projects, we have made a powerful statement for ClearSign, significant to both our customer base and also the regional air regulations.

While both of these are valuable additional installations in the field showcasing our technology, each one of these has a unique story which we intend to build on as a basis for conference presentations, white papers, et cetera, to assist recognition of what we can provide in the industry and to support our sales efforts.

This client was already a repeat customer of ClearSign's. And we anticipate that there will be future opportunities for us to work together on this site. The other 20 burner California project is also progressing, but on a less tight timeframe. As we previously stated, the final witness testing went as planned.

These burners are now being fabricated by our partner, Zeeco, and are scheduled to be shipped to our client in the Los Angeles area, California late in the third quarter this year.

When up and running, these will be another two heaters this time, with 8 and 12 burners, which provide a very significant reference for us, especially given their location in the large refining hub in the LA area.

At this time, we did not have the exact date of the site shutdown during which these burners will be installed, but client has indicated early 2025. Bear in mind that there are a lot of activities included in these refinery shutdowns so that planning process is complex and dependent on many factors.

We will be able to invoice and receive payment and recognize revenue upon the delivery of the burners, and only a small portion of the related purchase order will remain until installation. As we have said in the past, we very much believe that a lot of the industry is watching these large and multi-burner orders.

We believe that the effect of being able to reference the very recent startup of the two heaters at the California refiner has been significant, and has resulted in a marked change in attitude and response when talking to customers.

To give color, in the past few months, we have had two global refiners taking upon themselves to contact the engineering companies working on projects for them and asking them to make sure that they include ClearSign in their evaluations.

We have also had a global hydrogen producer reach out to us directly to preemptively start the process of adding ClearSign to their approved vendors list. Our Department of Energy funded hydrogen project is progressing.

\We have the first burner fabricated and installed for testing, which is not expected to be the final production version that's likely best described as the first physical draft of what we expect to be the production version. Nonetheless, it is good to see all the design and engineering work put into this project manifest into a physical product.

We're very excited to see how it performs in the test burners. I look forward to providing updates as this project continues.

It is also encouraging that we are already receiving inquiries about when this burden will be ready, in addition to expressions of interest from customers, looking for solutions for wanting to discuss opportunities to be one of our first demonstration sites for these hydrogen burners.

Before moving on to our boiler product lines, I want to talk about a new development that has gained significant tractions in the past few months. The reason for talking about it now is that it is a hybrid of our process burner and boiler technologies and markets that I believe is developing into a whole new business segment.

Previously, we announced the sale of a burner into a chemicals manufacturer in the Gulf Coast of Texas. And that this burner was an application tangential to our boiler burner product line. And the heater was a horizontally-fired heater built by heater company Tulsa Heaters based here in Tulsa.

This application has opened up a range of new opportunities for us requiring low NOx and horizontally-fired applications of a similar nature, including inquiries from a global oil company and another for major energy infrastructure company.

We are also discussing developing a standard offering with Tulsa Heaters Midstream of their low-NOx client needs. For Tulsa Heaters Midstream, this projects to provide a strategic advantage, enabling them to offer a best in class, low NOx heater that doesn't require an SCR system at a lower selling price and lower operating cost for their customers.

To add a data point to this development, Tulsa Heaters Midstream is hosting a customer seminar in the coming weeks and have asked to include ClearSign burners as part of their presentation to their customers' request we are, of course, happy to support.

A significant component of this development has been a recent investment we have made in our in-house capabilities. Back in November, we announced the hiring of Matthew Martin as our Chief Technology Officer, where we discussed his background and expertise in our last call.

One of his many credentials, he is a world-class practitioner of a very sophisticated computer modeling technology that allows us to predict the structure, flame patterns, heat transfer, and chemistry in flames, and the heaters or boilers in which they are positioned. We have now invested in this capability.

And this has allowed us to, not only meet the immediate requirements this new application for us, but the vet the roadmap to develop the next generation of horizontally-fired ClearSign burners. I cannot go into technical details here.

We will not be in a position to publish those details in the short term, while we are still ensuring a new intellectual property is protected. I do believe that this will be significant for this new market, but will also have implications for our boiler burner market.

Turning to our boiler burner product line, we are happy to report that our first permanent installation in California continues to run well. And we have been using these as demonstration sites prospective customers can visit while looking to purchase.

In terms of order flow, we're also able to announce back on February 21 our first multi-unit commitment for our boiler burner product line. There's orders from a fruit and vegetable multi-juice processing company located in California, Central Valley.

Our partner, California Boiler, initially received the letter of intent for the purchase of four 475 horsepower boilers, including ClearSign Core, or Rogue burners, followed by the first purchase order in a series of four new boilers.

The additional burner orders will be issued concurrent with the construction of additional plant through processing lines of the customer. There are also a number of other proposals issued and in discussion. We will of course let you know as we get these over the line.

We have a large 1,200 horsepower burner scheduled to install and start up around midyear on the site by California recycling business. This burner was sold in February 2023 and was shipped to California in September that year and has been awaiting installation since then. This boiler is large and falls in the range requiring 2.5 parts per million NOx.

This project's been held up in the construction permitting process, which we believe is now resolved. This site will provide a very significant reference for us when up and running, because this will be the first customer site running under a 2.5 part per million NOx guarantee.

This is the burner branded as NZN, or Near Zero NOx, and truly sets ClearSign apart in the mid to large California boiler market. We are very much looking forward to getting this burner in operation. As said at the start of this call, on April 19, we announced and filed details of our recently completed capital raise.

With the recent process burner projects in production and also now in operation and with our boiler burner product line now also gaining the much needed reference sites, we believe we are at a point our products will be more readily accepted and sought in the market.

Over the last five years, we have developed our burner technology to offer product platforms that are standardized and products that install and operate like the burner our customers are used to, with the exception that we deliver NOx numbers that allow our customers to avoid having to install very expensive and complex catalytic systems to remove NOx emissions from their boilers and heaters.

We have also formed partnerships with leading global and national equipment manufacturers, which allow our projects we fulfilled for the resources and credentials of these well-established industry stalwarts. And markets are also developing.

We have seen new regulations issued in California, and expect that Texas, Colorado, and Salt Lake City are moving in the same direction. And that technology has also been recognized and de facto endorsed by the regulators in California under their backed review process.

All this done, we believe a final hurdle to sales will be overcoming the perception of being new to the market. We anticipate that getting these new installations up and running will be fundamental to overcoming this remaining impediment and accelerating our sales and ClearSign's development as a business.

Our estimate of the run rate to breakeven is just 160 burners per year. Bear in mind that the two pieces we have just started up in California included 13 burners. And the order we have in production of the LA area includes 20 burners. We do not believe that this is an extraordinary number.

And given the development I've just summarized, we believe that the path to get there is tangible. Simply put, the money we raised was strategic and based on our estimate of the amount that we believe will be required to get us to that critical point of cash flow breakeven.

In closing, there are a number of significant items to anticipate in the near term. The formal third-party emissions testing, the second recently started up heater, is expected to be impactful in the industry due to the extreme technical complexity of that operations. And we will issue a press release when this performance is officially confirmed.

The performance of both of these heaters will provide data for other case studies and industry presentations. These will also be available on our website as they are published. This will be the same for our large boiler burner, expected startup around midyear. We have the hydrogen burner just starting initial phase of physical testing.

I appreciate that the computer modeling capability we have recently invested in and acceleration of the development of our technology that that enables; in conjunction with the addition of people like Matthew Martin, our new CTO, are less tangible looking in from the outside from my perspective and considering the long-term potential of ClearSign.

I believe this will be a significant lever in the growth of our business. I want to acknowledge and thank our California refining customer. The installation we have just completed are two heaters that are critical to the operation of their refinery. The engineering and project teams at both the refinery, and ClearSign, deserve recognition.

So stepping and replace a project not control system, and produce the results that we have, requires significant effort and dedication throughout the project, and especially through the start-up and handover of the new equipment to the plant operations team. Ultimately, it is all about sales, revenue, and profit.

The orders we are executing are generating revenue and profit margins we anticipated. And our successes are being noted by our customers. As I mentioned earlier, we have a heater manufacturer working with us to provide a future offering for their low-NOx applications.

We have quotations being provided to engineering companies that were initiated at the request of the global refining end users, and new business segments developing from recent equipment startups.

And finally, we also have a de facto validation for the California BACTs program that we anticipate will impact inquiries and sales opportunities in the future. With that, I'd like to open up the call for questions.

Please, operator?.

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. Our first question comes from the line of Amit Dayal, Wainwright..

Amit Dayal

Thank you, and good afternoon. So Jim, you gave some color on some of the items that are in the pipeline.

But from a dollar amount perspective, how much would that translate into -- I guess if there's a backlog number you could share, or maybe some color on how big the pipeline is as of now?.

Jim Deller

Hi, Amit. Good afternoon. It's good to hear from you. Thanks for your question. I think we need to be careful when actually putting a strict dollar figure to a pipeline, because things do move around. But there's some significant developments I think are worthy of note. So we referenced in the call that there are end-user customers.

These are global refiners that are requesting ClearSign to be included in the evaluation of projects that they have placed with engineering companies working for them. So this is the end uses basically pulling ClearSign into their projects for assessment. I can't put dollar figures on that. I don't think it's appropriate.

But one of those is in the order of the large order that went into the LA areas. Now there's -- for everyone, an inquiry is not a guarantee of the sale but it is an expression of interest. It is included in sales pipeline.

But what's significant is that we -- I think, for the first time for ClearSign, we actually have the end users making a request and go into their engineering companies and asking them to come to ClearSign to make sure that we're included. Up until now, it has always been us pushing our technology out.

So those are, in my mind, very significant for our pipeline. The other comment I made that it is also worthy of note, the hydrogen producer coming to ClearSign can take it on themselves to request that we go through the process to be evaluated for inclusion in their approved vendor list.

In significance of the same reason again, this thing -- a global customer, very typical customer in the field, now come into ClearSign to make sure that we're available to them to use as a supplier to them for their needs. So from a different way, we've got a lot of general interest, but those are the big changes to me.

And they all shift back into 2019, when we set out on this path of commercialization and laid out a plan. There were some milestones we identified. And getting to the point that we have, like the end user customers pulling and asking for our equipment to be included, has the engineering companies recommending our equipment.

Those are the key milestones we've identify then. So to finally get to that point now, I think, speaks volume for the developments here at ClearSign..

Amit Dayal

No. Understood. Thank you, Jim, for that. So in that context, right, looks like interest is building. You have back to validation as well. You've completed this financing.

So is part of the financing going to go towards just building a sales team internally? I know you have channel partners, but how are you taking a little bit more control of the sales process with all of these developments?.

Jim Deller

We are developing our sales capability. Just for our business structure, that is -- it's not only internal function. There's also through partnerships and outsourcing. We're getting to the point that our technology has been recognized in the industry.

From a sales perspective, right, there are a very effective way of making sales in the industry, especially for smaller companies is to engage with third-party common consultant, sometimes sales agents, but third parties that that may carry a rep and a number of products.

They're talking to the end users and customers all the time and very familiar with the projects in the area. Up until now, it has been -- ClearSign has not been appealing to them, because we were not well known in the industry. And from that perspective, we've been a hard technology to sell. We're now in the process.

We've got interest from those third parties. So just as an example of what this development does is allowing us to expand our sales team, but to do that efficiently through leveraging these third-party companies and engaging with them to benefit from their contacts and their personal relationships with the customer.

So it's having the technology developed, but also being able to engage others, in addition to the developments in-house that we're making, I think, are really bolstering up our sales capabilities overall on a holistic level..

Amit Dayal

Understood. Thank you, Jim. Just one last one. So for the four quarters of '24, how should we think about sales ramping? I'm sure there's going to be some lumpiness as you make deliveries, et cetera.

But are you expecting revenues to just be distributed a little unevenly throughout the year? How should we think about the cadence of revenues this year?.

Jim Deller

So at a practical level, I think that's really what's meaningful. We don't want us to start making , but the revenue as a result of work, right, as a result of products being shipped to meeting the obligations of those projects.

We've shipped and started up the burners in the California refinery, but we announced this successful start-up improving the emissions of one of those heaters that was installed or shipped late last year and startup in January.

We've recently shipped burners for the second heater and started that up -- shipped in March started up in just the last few weeks. That was very successful, waiting on the formal documents confirming the third-party assessment of that. But those product shipping will drive revenue.

And then we have -- the large order that I mentioned is being fabricated as time to ship out to California. Shipping those burners is going to be a key milestone for us along with some boiler burner projects. But those are going to be the major events that are in process at this time.

But as you say, Amit, it's at this time with a number of orders that we have and especially some of them being very large orders with very significant milestones, is it is going to create some lumpiness..

Amit Dayal

Understood. That's all I have, Jim. I'll take my other questions offline. Thank you..

Jim Deller

Thank you, Amit. It's good to talk to you..

Operator

There are no more questions at this time. I would like to turn the call back over to Jim Deller, ClearSign's CEO for any closing remarks..

Jim Deller

Well, thank you, everyone, for your interest and taking the time to participate today. We look forward to updating you regarding our developments and speaking with you on our next call..

Operator

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect..

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