Ginkgo Bioworks Holdings, Inc.

Ginkgo Bioworks Holdings, Inc.

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Ginkgo Bioworks Holdings, Inc., together with its subsidiaries, develops platform for cell programming. Its platform is used to program cells to enable biological production of products, such as novel therapeutics, food ingredients, and chemicals derived from petroleum. The company serves various end markets, including specialty chemicals, agriculture, food, consumer products, and pharmaceuticals. Ginkgo Bioworks has a partnership with Selecta Biosciences, Inc. to develop ImmTOR technology platform. Ginkgo Bioworks Holdings, Inc. was founded in 2008 and is headquartered in Boston, Massachusetts.

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Market Cap$642.14M
EPS-5.6400
P/E Ratio-1.74
Earnings Date08/06/2026

Earnings Call Transcript

DNA • 2023 • Q4

Megan LeDuc
Good evening, I’m Megan LeDuc, Manager of Investor Relations at Ginkgo Bioworks. I’m joined by Jason Kelly, our Co-Founder and CEO; and Mark Dmytruk, our CFO. Thanks as always for joining us, and we’re looking forward to updating you on our progress. As a reminder, during the presentation today, we will be making forward-looking statements, which involve risks and uncertainties. Please refer to our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission to learn more about these risks and uncertainties. Today, in addition to updating you on the quarter and full year, we’re going to dive deeper into Ginkgo’s evolution as a data generator and systems integrator within the biotech R&D ecosystem and biosecurity. As usual, we’ll end with a Q&A session, and I’ll take questions from analysts, investors and the public. You can submit those questions to us in advance via Twitter at #Ginkgo’s – #GinkgoResults or email [email protected]. All right, over to you, Jason.
Jason Kelly
It’s been a busy and exciting week here at Ginkgo, and it’s a great week to remind everyone of our mission, which is to make biology easier to engineer. We don’t take this mission lightly, and achieving it requires not only our own infrastructure investments here at Ginkgo, but also truly to drive change across the culture of the industry, fostering collaboration over competition, especially among tool developers. And I’m going to spend a bunch of time today talking about that. I’m really excited about our progress. And as we’ll dig into the strategic sections, you’ll see how we’re building and integrating a set of capabilities we believe could really revolutionize how biotech R&D is done. Before we get to that, I want to say, if you want to imagine a little bit of what a world would look like when biology gets easier to engineer, it looks a little something like this. So engineered biology becoming an everyday part of our lives, not just something we experience when we’re sick in a hospital or things like that. And this photo is a real photo of the Firefly branded petunias that one of our customers, Light Bio, just launched to the public. And we’re working with them to make these plants an order of magnitude brighter today to see them you have to be in a really in a dark room. But now you may not think that bioluminescent flowers are going to sort of change the world like a blockbuster drug. But you know, the reason I got into biotech was really because of movies like Jurassic Park. And if you look at some of the younger employees here at Ginkgo, they were inspired by things like Avatar. And this idea that we could start to really design biology and build more beautiful things in the world, I think is going to be an inspiration, especially for kids that want to get into biotechnology. And I promise you, you fast forward 10 years, you’re going to see high school students designing their own flowers in their DNA programming classes. And I think this first product from Light Bio is the start of that. Okay, now the road to that consumer biotech world though, leads through this, this road. And Ginkgo continues to lead in B2B sales to large R&D groups at both big and small biotech companies across the three major industries of biotech: industrial, agriculture, and most importantly, for our conversation today, biopharma. And I want to really take a minute and focus on our progress in biopharma in 2023. So we added several new biopharma programs in 2023, including with Pfizer, Boehringer Ingelheim, Novo Nordisk, Merck, as well as successfully completing our first project with Biogen. All of these are hugely important for Ginkgo. First, it is a wide range of different projects we’re doing with these companies. We’re doing manufacturing R&D for Novo, biocatalytic enzyme development for Merck, RNA drug discovery for Pfizer, small molecule natural product drug discovery for Boehringer. And that breadth is a huge vote of confidence for Ginkgo’s sort of core thesis of being a platform business model. So we believe that our robotics, our data, and you’re going to hear today, our AI models will be relevant to product developers across all biotech, either modalities of drugs or different industries in biotechnology. And these deals represent that thesis being confirmed by customers in the biopharma industry, right? This is not Ginkgo getting into enzymes or Ginkgo getting into RNA drugs. These are customers who are experts in those fields, choosing to look at our platform and see that it gives them leverage. And for potential customers on this call, I want to be very clear. We do not have our own product portfolio or drug pipeline at Ginkgo. Everything we build, we build to serve you, our customers, like the ones on this page. And we’re looking forward to continuing to build the best platform we can to serve your needs going forward. Speaking of what’s going to propel our business in 2024, we plan to expand our capabilities. You’ve heard us talk about our foundry and code base, which is really our robotics and our data at Ginkgo. And we’re going to continue to build that out with new RAC deployments. This is the robotics technology from
Mark Dmytruk
Thanks, Jason. I’ll start with the Cell Engineering business. We added 23 new cell programs in the fourth quarter of 2023, which brought us to 78 new cell programs for the full year 2023. This represents a 32% increase over 2022. Importantly, we continue to be successful in adding new programs with large enterprise pharma customers. We will provide some additional detail in a moment on our penetration in biopharma, as this trend provides a critical new perspective on our aggregate new programs metric. We supported a total of 131 active programs in the fourth quarter of 2023 across 80 customers on our platform. This represents substantial growth and diversification in programs relative to the 96 active programs across 54 customers in the fourth quarter of 2022. On a full year basis, Cell Engineering services revenue was $139 million in 2023, an increase of 31% compared to the full year of 2022. As discussed in prior quarters, the services revenue growth was offset by a decline in downstream value share from equity milestones achieved in 2022, resulting in total Cell Engineering revenue of $144 million in 2023 being approximately flat compared to 2022. When looking just at the fourth quarter of 2023, Cell Engineering revenue was $27 million, down 49% compared to the fourth quarter of 2022, primarily due to the decline in downstream value share just mentioned. Services revenue, which excludes the impact of downstream value share, was also down year-over-year. As discussed in the past, we often see inter-quarter lumpiness in services revenue, even though the underlying foundry platform output is more level, and that is because of the timing of revenue recognition, the achievement of certain technical milestones, contract-specific factors and related accounting adjustments. And so, for example, the actual platform work that we did for customers in Q4 was comparable to Q3, even though we had a significantly different revenue result. Now, turning to Biosecurity briefly, our Biosecurity business generated $8 million of revenue in the fourth quarter of 2023 at a gross margin of 15%. Biosecurity revenue for the full year 2023 was $108 million with a gross margin of 50%. As a reminder, our K-12 COVID testing contracts ended in the third quarter, and the business has now moved entirely towards building out both domestic and international infrastructure for Biosecurity, highlighted, for example, by our CUBE-D announcement earlier this week in our expanded CDC multi-pathogen surveillance program announced in Q4. Before getting into the rest of the P&L, I’d like to talk about how we’re managing cash flow and cash expenses in this environment. We finished 2023 with nearly $950 million of cash on hand. From our balance sheet, you can see that our total use of cash in the year was about $370 million. Both of these figures were favorable to our internal targets, despite the revenue shortfall relative to our original guidance. Over the past 18 months, we have been assessing every area of cash spent with the goal of identifying categories that should be decreased, categories that should be constrained, and areas where targeted investments are appropriate. In 2023 and in our planning for 2024, we took the following actions. The completion of our integration efforts relating to the four acquisitions that we had closed back in the fourth quarter of 2022 has resulted in cost synergies at this point, particularly as relates to G&A expenses and the
Jason Kelly
Thanks, Mark. A couple of things I want to reiterate from Mark’s section. So you’ll see us giving a pretty broad range for our service revenues and new program count guidance. The reason for this is that Infrastructure Services is really new to the biotech industry. So we’re blazing a bit of a new trail here. And that adds a little bit more unpredictability in my opinion. Mark mentioned how small our current services revenues are relative to the research budgets in the biopharma industry. The reality today is that by and large, infrastructure tools for product development in biotechnology are done on premises. They’re done in-house at these companies. And that’s why getting these first deals with Merck, Novo Nordisk, Pfizer, Boehringer and others is so important. It’s a chance for those companies to get experience really with outsourcing core research infrastructure to sort of cloud infrastructure services like Ginkgo as an alternative to doing it in-house. And the rate that those R&D decision-makers make that switch from doing things in-house to outsourced service providers is going to be what will drive big changes in Ginkgo’s revenue over the next couple of years. That’s really the driving factor, it’s less about what we can scale into. I’m confident we can scale into it. It’s at what rate do they turn that knob. And there’s unpredictability to that as it’s fundamentally a question of new sales. But we have a 90-person commercial sales team now, and we have a big focus in biopharma. So we’re putting our backs into it. Now since the big question for Ginkgo coming up is what is that rate that biopharma leaders will adopt outsourced infrastructure services. I’m going to use the first two parts of my strategic review to really dig in on that. Why are those folks interested? What are we doing this new to make that happen? And so in the first section, Ginkgo has invested close to $1 billion in software and automation, call our foundry that is flexible enough to handle the variety of lab work needed for cell engineering across a wide range of biotech products. And this is critical for large-scale data generation that’s needed for applying, in particular, AI and biotechnology. The second section I’m going to dig in on is we want to see a robust infrastructure services industry grow in biotech. And our view is that a rising tide will lift all boats in the industry, including Ginkgo. So we’re working to make our automation, our foundry, I’ll talk about the first section available to other service companies. So they don’t need to repeat our investments as they build the business doing this in the industry. Finally, we’ll give an update on biosecurity, where we recently expanded our strong relationship with the government of Qatar. Okay. Let’s dive in. Okay. So what do I mean when I say infrastructure services, all right? So on the left side of this chart, you can see the magical world of the tech industry, okay? So on the top of each of these boxes, you see a large company building on top of the infrastructure services of an often even larger company underneath it. And to give you an example, new $1 trillion companies like NVIDIA are built entirely on top of other companies infrastructure like TSMC. So I want to emphasize, NVIDIA, $1 trillion microchip company that does not manufacture its own chips, right? Similarly, Salesforce, Netflix, many of the other Software-as-a-Service, SaaS applications that have really bloomed over the last 15, 20 years are all built on top of things like Amazon Web Services and Google Cloud, the big cloud compute providers. And every app on your phone is enabled by the iPhone or Android OS ecosystem depending on which ecosystem you’re in. So this is very powerful. It’s very enabling, and in my opinion, is why we see $1 trillion tech companies is you’re getting this unbelievable rate of innovation and people building on each other’s core infrastructure. This is not how the biotech industry works, whether we’re talking about ag, industrial or biopharma, and we engage all areas of those different industries. Large customers typically have their own in-house infrastructure with vertical integration from R&D, often all the way through to manufacturing, okay? And our view, my view, in particular, is that part of the reason that on the left-hand side, it all works so well in the tech industry is it’s fundamentally a code-based industry, right? Like people are moving zeros and ones around, it is digital. So you have a very clear opportunity to have interfaces and standards across players where there isn’t confusion, right? Like you’re able to tell someone exactly what you want to get back exactly what you want. Well, in my opinion, biotech is also a code-based industry, right? DNA code is common across all the products of biotechnology, whether it’s a trait in corn or RNA gene therapy going into a human. And I’m hopeful that means that we could structure our industry, our biotech industry similar to tech and see similar gains. And my hope is that perhaps one of our customers could be the first $1 trillion biotech company. Okay. Now since there are a lot of biotech investors that tune into our call, I will mention that canonical wisdom in biotech is that even if you have this great, robust platform technology that can do lots of things, you always end up vertically integrating into becoming a drug company in the biotech industry. A famous example, one that I like a lot is Millennium, really from the genomics boom in the early 2000, huge platform story, amazing leadership, great technology. And here’s our CEO, Mark Levin, explaining we can’t afford to remain a research company. And if you look at the history of Millennium and play it out, ultimately, they did move towards creating specific drug assets before being acquired by Takeda in 2008 for of those drug assets, right? And we even hear this from potential customers of our infrastructure services, right? They’ll say, it’s fine, Ginkgo, like the story, but inevitably, you’re going to develop your own drug and compete with us. All right. So again, I want to be emphatic here for our potential customers on the call. Ginkgo today is 1,200 people. We have close to $1 billion in cash in the bank, we’re very protective of that cash. Our revenues are increasing, as you heard from Mark, while our cash burn is falling and our rate of new customers is going up. So we are not going to end up developing our own drugs. I think we are uniquely at our scale in terms of the tech and infrastructure we built and the scale of service revenues and the number of customers on the platform. I think we are now sort of in our own category when it comes to really sticking with a platform infrastructure services business model and biotech. I’m biased, but I think we’re going to make it. And so again, for our customers, I want them to know that we’re sticking to that, and don’t tend to compete with them. Okay. So a key component of our infrastructure today is Ginkgo’s investment in flexible lab automation, all right? I mentioned earlier, we spent close to $1 billion on this. Why do you need automation, right? Like why is that important in biotech? And why is it important to biopharma R&D leaders? And the reason is that in order to generate the large data sets that are driving modern biotech R&D, the cost per data point generated really matters because we are talking about millions and millions of data points. And I went into this more in my talk at JPM, which I encourage you to listen to. But you can see on the left here, Ginkgo’s in-house genomic data library that has about 10x the number of genes relative to the large public data sets. And importantly, on the right, we’ve run millions of assays on genes from that library and tested their performance. And that chart on the top is actually each row in that is an EC number. This is like a class, different enzyme class. And we have hundreds of thousands of data points for each of these different EC classes. And that gives us an enormous set of label data, as we’ll talk about later when it comes to AI as well as the raw of large DNA data asset. This aggregate data is important because it’s needed to develop down here at the bottom in gray, AI foundation models in biotech, right? And if you are an AI company watching this right now and salivating over these data assets at Ginkgo, give us a call, right? As you’re going to hear in the next section, we really want to enable others to build on top of principally our automation, because we’ve invested a lot there. But also these data assets that are starting to accumulate at Ginkgo, we think they can be resources for tool developers in the industry. But I’ll just point out. Now, it’s kind of the upper part of this graph. Most of the data in biology has yet to be created, okay? So we do have great starter assets. Ginkgo’s got bigger ones, I think, than most places. But what really we want to do is generate more data using the automation, so our customers and partners can do things like fine tune an AI model offered by, for example, another service company, without that company needing to develop their own automated lab. And so you’ll hear about that in a second with our partnership with Cradle. That I’ll talk about in the next section. But some companies will also want to generate their own huge data assets to build, for example, maybe a proprietary foundation model in a certain disease cell line that they’re interested in as an example. We can do that too. This is similar to the business model of Scale AI in the tech industry. So on that tech chart, I showed OpenAI on top of Scale AI, right? So OpenAI pays Scale AI to generate a lot of the data they use to train things like ChatGPT, Tesla pays Scale AI to basically analyze images and highlight. That’s a dog. That’s a pedestrian right to help train their models for self driving cars. It’s a company in the business of generating labeled data to feed into other companies machine-learning and AI models. Absolutely happy to do that at Ginkgo at large scale for customers. Okay. So one of the best investments we’ve made was bringing in
A - Megan LeDuc
Great. Thanks, Jason. As usual, I’ll start with a question from the public and remind the analysts on the line that if they’d like to ask a question to please raise their hands on
Jason Kelly
Yes, I can take that one. So I actually think there’s a few good measuring sticks if I look at sort of what our strategy is in 2024. So first, I think you can watch our cash burn. I think it is a tough market in general for biotech companies, and we don’t want to have to be raising if we don’t want to be raising. And so we’re really focused on why you see us ending 2023 with in such a great cash position, more than $950 million in cash and equivalents in the bank. And you want us to see us raise our revenues while reducing our OpEx. So that’s a big goal for us in 2024. Towards that end also watching how our sort of campaign costs move, right? So in the last year, you saw us drop those campaign costs 40% to 50%. This is an example of us seeing these scale economics that we’ve been talking about for such a long time at Ginkgo, where our infrastructure does get less expensive with scale. So as we take on more business, our per – kind of program per campaign costs can fall. And then finally, I’d watch for blue chip biopharma companies being added onto our customer list. So each one of those partnerships, we get that first deal with Merck or that first deal with Novo Nordisk. You’ll see us adding more business behind those. Mark talked about this, but the research budgets of those biopharma companies are huge. And so there’s actually a lot more business to come behind a first deal. So each one of those has a lot of lifetime value to us. So those are some of the things I would watch for in 2024, since those are some of the areas the teams are going to be focusing on.
Megan LeDuc
Thanks, Jason. Like I said, Steve Mah [Cowen], you’re up first. Your line is now open.
Steve Mah
Oh, great. Thanks for the questions. I have a three parter on the technology network. So first, how can we begin conceptualizing the technology network platform? How is Ginkgo going to monetize that? And then two, what’s the incentive structure for the 25 plus parties involved? And also for customers, are customers asking for these multifunctional platforms? And then three, aren’t you competing with your network partners to some degree? Just try to help us understand the whole dynamics of this technology network. Thanks. I’ll get back in the queue.
Jason Kelly
Love it. Yeah. All very good questions. So I’ll give you a little bit of sort of – first you asked how to conceptualize it and in particular, like how do you monetize it? So, sort of the easiest way to think about it is it makes it easier for us to bring to bear new technologies and tools as part of customer projects where the customer is interested in it without us necessarily having to, for example, acquire that technology, right? So I’d give you an example. We acquired Circularis a few years ago. That was circular RNA technology. Our technology in the RNA space helped us get a deal with Pfizer and RNA. There’s a world where, with a more mature partner network, we’re able to draw in a few pieces of technology from smaller RNA tools companies, put them together on Ginkgo’s automation, and land a deal that we otherwise wouldn’t have been able to get, right? And so that’s new business for us, right, by us being able to have more tools to bring to bear and Ginkgo, again, I mentioned this before, but selling outsourced infrastructure services is not a thing that is commonly being done in the biotech market today. So our sales team is very specialized. And so I think our ability to go out and land those customers is something that’s valuable to the other tool companies in the space. So that’s why they’re excited about it. From the customer half of the equation, it’s hard if you’re a big biopharma company and there’s tens of new small AI companies, tens of new small RNA companies, right? Like people do search and evaluation, but they’re usually doing search and evaluation around a drug asset, doing search and evaluation to go look at all these small tool players. Frankly, the big biopharma companies, I think, have a hard time doing it. It’s just a lot, and it’s hard to compare them, they’re early. So Ginkgo can also be this sort of clearinghouse interacting with many different players and again, making that easy, right? Making it easy for biopharma companies to tap into that innovation, because there is more innovative tech happening at these startups than is happening in-house in many cases, especially for emerging modalities. So that’s the other side of it. And I think the incentive in that case can be pretty straightforward. Ginkgo gets more business that we wouldn’t have otherwise had. These small companies get a distribution channel by tacking on to Ginkgo programs with customers. All right. When it comes to competing with the network, I think over time, frankly, I think that’s something that could happen, right? I think you see this with many platforms where you’ll have a large platform infrastructure, you might see that platform company initially launch certain products, like Apple would have seeded the App Store with certain apps that they were running. You can think of it like we’ve done that with our cell engineering services. But if it turns out other companies want to build cell engineering service platforms and it’s going to use Ginkgo’s automation, and we’re going to get lots of fees or maybe pieces of a rev share in the future and so on, what’s wrong with that, right? It works fine in iOS, and so it’s a model we’re experimenting with. I want to say today what we have with these partners is the right to go out and sell kind of co-market to customers and see how it goes. And I think we’re going to learn a lot. You’re already seeing some of those things, we’re talking about structuring, for example, with some of the early examples I gave in the talk today. But how that ends up shaking out will be a function of when we get a customer excited about it and we’re negotiating that deal and we work out the economics. So it is today more of an experiment to see how it goes. But we had a ton of interest in it on really both sides of the market, both from tool providers to get that distribution and large biopharma and other R&D heads to get access. Does that make sense?
Steve Mah
Yes, that makes sense. Thanks for the color.
Jason Kelly
Yes. Thanks, Steve.
Megan LeDuc
All right. Our next set of questions comes from Tejas at Morgan Stanley. Tejas, your line is now open.
Tejas Savant
Hey, Jason, Mark, Megan, hope you can hear me okay.
Jason Kelly
Yes, it’s great.
Tejas Savant
Awesome. Good evening. So I want to start with one on the global tech network and then one for you, Mark, on the financials. So starting on the tech network side, Jason, in your mind, you’ve added 25 partners here. Are there any key gaps that still remain to be filled there? And then more importantly, I think this is a theme you touched upon sort of in your prepared remarks there. But can you just talk to us about the efforts underway towards convincing customers to outsource what they may view as proprietary capabilities for competitive reasons? One of the analogies that I was thinking about was if you look at sort of outsourcing penetration rates for preclinical discovery work, right, and that versus what you see in Stage 2 – I mean, Phase 2 or 3 clinical trials, there’s a function difference there. So talk to us about why you think this time and in this context it’s truly different.
Jason Kelly
Yes, super good question, especially that second one. So, on the gaps in the technology, yes, yes, tons. I mean, you can see, like for example, if you look at just a number of modalities, we don’t even have any technology partner really focused there as an example. And then inside a particular modality, again, like take an RNA or something, you could have a bunch of different approaches for delivery, a bunch of different approaches for persistence of RNA – decreased persistence of RNA in a cell as examples. And I think one thing that biopharma companies will be excited to do is try multiple approaches, right? I think one of the challenges you see with internal R&D is you often kind of get a bunch of things tried and instead of actually getting a chance to compare them all evenly, whichever one happens to get to like a sort of clinically. So it looks like it’s qualified to go into animal studies and clinic whatever get their first go, as opposed to having tried all the different approaches you possibly could have and found the best. And I think trying them all and finding the best would be a much – would help the industry on the probability of success axis and it’s something that could be enabled with really a network of different tool providers rather than a one-off deal here and there and people just making a bet on their favorite force. And then secondly, when it comes to convincing customers to outsource, I think this is the most important question for the entire, again, what I would call infrastructure services industry in biotech, right? How do we convince again, research leaders to choose to outsource parts of that work rather than do it in-house. And you brought up one of the challenges, which is people can think of it as something proprietary, a secret sauce and so on and Phase 2 and Phase 3 hasn’t looked at that way, although you could sort of debate, I think certain companies do focus on how the trial design and things like that. I actually think it’s less about that, to be honest, Tejas. I think it’s like – it is more that it is perceived that the work is so specialized that an outsourced provider couldn’t do it as well as you could internally. I think that’s actually been the much bigger source of resistance because you can get the proprietary with patents, right? You can still buy on all this stuff because they’ll own the IP, and you – so you’re still going to have all those same very strong proprietary protections, whether you’re using an outsourced service or doing it in-house. I think it is a perception that the services aren’t specialized enough to do preclinical research. And I think that based on certainly what we’ve started to see here I can go on the deals we’ve been doing. I think as the technology is scaling, that’s starting to fall away. And you’re going to see just aggregate data assets going into AI models, large-scale robotics that is just bigger at the service providers than it would ever be at any one company. And I’m hopeful that, that will start to change that dynamic. But that to me is the bigger barrier.
Tejas Savant
Got it. Super helpful. And one for you, Mark. I was looking at the program ads here in the guide and also the cell engineering contribution. I think it’s $175 million at the midpoint. Can you just share some color on the embedded ramp versus the $27 million you did in the fourth quarter? I think you pointed to sort of large pharma and government as two key drivers there, but just some color around sort of the phasing of that revenue through the year. And then what are the macro recovery assumptions that you’ve baked into your back half expectations?
Mark Dmytruk
Yes. So a couple of things. First of all, we do expect the revenue to ramp during the course of the year. Second point was that when you look at Q4, it’s not a great sort of comp because we did have a specific contract amendments on a single customer that impacted revenue negatively in Q4. So it isn’t a good baseline for you to think about sort of where the launching point is for 2024. And then just in terms of sort of catalysts or opportunities, it is the things that we’ve been talking about. So we have been adding significantly to the BD sales force in biopharma over the course of the past few months. And so that will start to have more of an impact later in the year, for example.
Tejas Savant
Got it. Super helpful. Appreciate the time, guys.
Jason Kelly
And I’ll mention Mark didn’t touch on it, but Tejas, you mentioned that government. And that’s got a sort of a surprise area of growth for us, I think. And I’ve been trying to kind of chew on why this is not government associated with our biosecurity. But on cell engineering, and I think part of the reason is there’s like RFPs. Like there’s a – the government has already decided they’re going to outsource research. And so as an infrastructure or service provider, you can just compete in a very clean RFP process. So again, if you were to think back to your second question, we sort of wanted to enter world where you see more RFPs being emitted from the large biopharma research organizations, almost like the government does today to get certain types of research done. I think that would be quite interesting. And so – but that’s one of the reasons I’m pretty excited about government is it’s a little more straightforward to sell into.
Tejas Savant
Got it. Thanks, Jason. Appreciate it.
Megan LeDuc
Thanks, Tejas. Our next question will come from Mark Massaro at BTIG. Mark, your line is now open.
Mark Massaro
Hey, guys, can you hear me okay?
Jason Kelly
Yes.
Mark Massaro
All right. Excellent. Well, thanks so much for taking the question. So, it’s nice to see $1.5 billion of revenue potential coming in from downstream milestone payments this year. Would love maybe any feedback on the $1 billion that came out of the pool. Obviously, the $1.5 billion going into the pool, that is a net positive. Can you maybe just talk about some of the puts and takes of what went in and what went out? And then as we think about potentially monetizing the $2.4 billion over time, can you give us a sense for when you think you can realize this? I recognize this will not happen overnight, but just maybe a sense for how much, maybe in 2024, 2025, 2026. Just how do you guys think about that opportunity?
Mark Dmytruk
Yes, I’d be happy to take both of those. So on the downstream value share that fell out, a good chunk of that did relate to a single customer. And I think the important point is that the new downstream value share milestone potential that we added, the $1.5 billion, it was more diversified and largely speaking, coming from large pharma companies, which are more resourced ultimately to commercialize an opportunity. On the $2.4 billion of milestone potential. So first of all, remember that doesn’t include royalty potential or equity potential. So that’s just the milestone category only. In terms of the pattern of potentially realizing that, so you can see in the chart that was in the deck, a good portion of that potential is tied to the ultimate commercialization of a product. And so – and in the biopharma space, the commercialization can take time. It’s got to get through, for example, clinical trials, et cetera, and those kinds of approvals. So it is sort of a longer time horizon. But what I can tell you, just to get sort of very specific and tactical about 2024. We do have a significant number of downstream value share opportunities in play for 2024. In fact, really almost an order of magnitude higher than what we’ve had in prior years as potential opportunities. They are binary in nature. And so that is just the fact. They are also, for the most part, I would say the impact for in-year revenue in 2024 still remains small on any given opportunity. Some of them are more significant than others. But it’s really sort of a small potential impact. So higher number of opportunities, relatively small potential impact for 2024. But certainly, there’s a lot of opportunity for us to achieve downturn value share in 2024 are much higher than the $4 million that was achieved in 2023.
Mark Massaro
Okay, great. And then congrats on the acquisitions, notably two in AI machine learning. You guys have $944 million of cash in the balance sheet. Looks like you used $370 million this year or last year. Can you give us a sense for what the priority is with respect to cash in the balance sheet? How much do you think might be used for further acquisitions? It seems like AI is a pretty significant focus area this year. And then as I think about the cash, it appears to me that you have at least two years of cash. But can you just give us a sense for what you think the cash utilization will be in 2024? And again, just help us frame where the cash balance for M&A is as a priority this year?
Mark Dmytruk
I’m happy to take both of those, Jason. So on the M&A front, the cash. Generally speaking, I think, as you know, we’re structuring deals as where the consideration is stock and not cash. And so those are generally not uses of cash. Secondly, we structure the deals with relatively low upfront consideration, with higher consideration in the future in the form of kind of earnouts. And so, again, the sort of key point there is our M&A activity is not a significant use of cash right now and wouldn’t be expected to be in 2024. Of course, there’s always the chance that a particular attractive opportunity comes up and we would evaluate that. But that’s been the kind of recent history. On cash burn, I think, Mark, the best way to think about it is, as you can see from the financial statements, about a $370 million sort of overall burn in 2023. So you should expect us to improve upon that meaningfully in 2024. And I think more important – that’s a combination of revenue growth as well as some OpEx reduction. And I talked a lot about what we’re doing sort of on OpEx and spend management on the earnings call. And so think about cash burn improving in 2024. And I think good execution on that puts us on a trajectory to further improve on that number in 2025.
Mark Massaro
Okay, thanks, guys. I’ll hop back in the queue.
Jason Kelly
Yes. Mark, the only thing I would add is I do think this just touch on the topics of sort of DVS and that cash position. Like from my standpoint, I like how our numbers are looking as we’re growing demand on the platform. You’re not seeing us actually spend. This wasn’t like huge amounts of new capacity build in the last year. This was really efficiency gains from more volume coming through improved automation. So I like my scale economic. I like that I’m adding a lot of new business in the market with the biggest research budgets in the world. And I like that we barely penetrated that market, so I have a lot of room to run. The thing that screws me up is if I get over my skis on cash. And so we are watching that, right? Like and I’m not counting on DVS, downstream value share, to do it for me. I love DVS. I’m here for it. I hope some of our equity positions get sold for a bunch. I hope we get more milestones. It’s all great. But when you think about how I’m running the company strategically, I’m going to make sure that the fees that are coming in from cash are there to, or the cash coming in from fees are there to support our efforts as we bring our kind of revenue up and our OpEx contained relative to it, that we can get there without needing to do a fundraise, I don’t want to do. So I want you to know that I’m really trying to do that absent of DVS, and I think it’s great to have it, but it’s not something I want to count on.
Mark Massaro
Okay, thanks guys.
Operator
Thanks, Mark. Our next question will come from Matt Sykes at Goldman Sachs. Matt, your line is now open.
Matt Sykes
Great, thanks for taking my questions. Maybe the first one. Jason, I want to go back to the government end market. I mean, you saw an increase from like six to 14 and really haven’t talked about it much in the past. And I think the RFP structure simplifies the sales process, certainly relative to large pharma, which is like a different ballgame. But I would also love to know how are those contracts structured because it would seem to me there might be some opportunities for more upfront relative to downstream value. We’d just love to get more details as this business grows, how can that have an impact on sort of the financials longer term? And what do you expect that end market to grow at over the course of maybe the next you like longer term?
Mark Dmytruk
I’ll take sort of a part of that to just sort of kick it off. So those are structured like a fee for services agreement. So as we perform a service, we get paid in the sort of context of upfront versus DVS. It is basically all upfront as we perform the services. And I don’t mean sort of cash prepaid, I mean – I don’t mean upfront in that sense. I mean just in the context of fee for service. There is no DVS on government contracts. So those are structured in a way that they make sense for us economically to do based on the service fees.
Jason Kelly
And the thing I would add is, I think frequently what we’re seeing with government customers is they’re looking for early stage research. And so it’s also a way, although we’re not getting DVS, we’re often creating assets internally that we’re able to reuse for other things. And so it is a way to kind of generate some of that. It drives demand that is economically good for us overall in terms of the fees. And it’s a reliable kind of RFP process to do the sale. So I am really excited about it in that regard, especially in these near years where we’re trying to make sure again that the cash coming in from non-DVS, earlier research, funding and fees helps us not need to raise.
Matt Sykes
Got it. That’s very helpful. And then, Mark, just following up on some of the comments you made on the OpEx side, looking at the reduction you did Q4 to Q4 year-over-year, how should we be thinking about OpEx for 2024? I know you said that expect it to moderate, but any additional color on that would be very helpful.
Mark Dmytruk
So in the aggregate, we’re targeting, we expect total OpEx in 2024 to be less than total OpEx in 2023. And you can see that we’re sort of on the right trajectory from just Q4 – over Q4 perspective in 2023. So there’s a lot going on there. So we would expect to see sort of just a net reduction in G&A expense in your sort of classical support functions like finance and legal and people. And that’s because we’re moving from a place where we’ve been spending a lot of money on professional services and consulting to bringing more capabilities in-house at a better cost. So that’s sort of one example. But in the G&A line, you’ve also got selling expenses and we are expanding, as we’ve said, the pharma business development team. So you’re going to have offsets against some of that G&A reduction with some areas of targeted investment. On the R&D side, sort of the same kind of thing. So there are areas where we’re either constraining, holding the line flat, or reducing expenses. And that’ll be partially offset or offset by investments, for example, in mammalian capabilities. So the net sort of effect, I think, Matt, the right way to think about it is think about Q4 as a good sort of baseline, because the earlier quarters in 2023, we were still integrating acquisitions. We were still working through sort of operational improvements. So think about Q4 as a good baseline. From there, you would see R&D expenses increase a bit quarterly because of, like I said, investments in the mammalian capabilities, and then you should see G&A decrease. But it does get a little bit. There are puts and takes sort of across the board in terms of those line items.
Matt Sykes
Great. Thank you very much.
Jason Kelly
Again, I’ll be a broken record on this, but just to state it again. From a strategic standpoint, what I’m hoping to do is you see us with a large cash pile right now, 944 million. We want to squeeze down that cash burn by basically growing our customer base and increasing the amount of cash revenue we’re getting while containing our spending and getting more efficient, right. And if I do that, by the end of the year, I still have a good cash pile, but I have a lower burn. And then you’re once again computing how much runway I have. And the next year, I squeeze it again, and we eventually get to the point where you have no fear that I’m going to get to profitability again without needing to raise in an unfortunate environment, if that’s the one we’re in. And so that’s my strategic goal, because otherwise, I just like my market footing, right. Like, we are getting the scale economics we want. We’re the leader. We’re getting the customers we want. So as long as I keep that train running, I’m pretty happy.
Matt Sykes
Great. Thanks. Very helpful. Appreciate it.
Operator
Thanks, Matt. Our next set of questions comes from Derik de Bruin at Bank of America. Derik, your line is now open.
Jason Kelly
Hi, Derik.
Derik de Bruin
Hey, how are you?
Jason Kelly
We got you again.
Derik de Bruin
You got me again. Yes. So I’ve been bouncing around, but did you explain why the program number, and basically you put out a press release on the 10th of January saying you were going to meet your targets, and the numbers actually came in below on the programs, and if I missed the beginning of my apologies of why it came below those from the results. But you can – can you elaborate?
Jason Kelly
So on the revenue point; we came in a little bit below. Yes, we did – I did make a comment to the effect that we did have a contract amendment late that had a negative accounting impact to revenue and so that’s really what happened with revenue. Without that we would have been sort of, well, in the revenue range. And then with program count it was really – so we certainly had the base of programs that we had started in the quarter to feel good about the guidance range, but there were just a few programs that ultimately didn’t progress far enough in the contract discussion for us to count them and that’s what happened there, Derik.
Derik de Bruin
Got it. Okay. So I had about 100 programs coming in 2024, but the revenue number is way down. I guess the revenue per active program is like, why is that falling so sharply relative it is. I mean, is it just the nature of the fact that you’re moving to more biopharma and they want to pay more downstream? What’s the delta? Because your program numbers are coming in essentially where I thought they were, but the revenues are blow. Where’s [indiscernible]?
Jason Kelly
Yes, a couple of things. So first of all the, some of the newer programs we’re doing on the industrial biotech side are coming in at a lower revenue per program or booking per program than what we’ve seen historically. And you can think of that as a function of macroeconomic conditions. In some cases, it’s because we’re doing success based pricing. So you do have like a component of the new program mix is industrial biotech that’s lower than average. The larger – that the new stuff that we’re doing with larger biopharma companies is not at all, in fact, that’s the opposite. Those are generally higher program revenue on average or booking per program on average. And so that is not at all the case that somehow those are sort of skewed to downstream value, so that moves in our favor. The one thing, Derik that you need to look at is I would average a few quarters. So rather than taking Q4 divided by average active program, I would take like the last three quarters, let’s say, or the full year of 2023, and divide by average active, because there is the quarterly lumpiness that I talked about for a whole variety of reasons that can make a particular quarter, that can throw off a revenue per quarter per program metric, and so I would do that. I would do some averaging, and then things would make a little bit more sense there.
Derik de Bruin
Got it. And how should we think about discontinuations this year? I mean, you ended at, I think, 162 active programs?
Jason Kelly
Yes. I think the sources of growth for us right now, which are government programs and biopharma, and then within biopharma, large biopharma are all better than sort of average revenue per programs. But there’s still a very meaningful number of industrial biotech programs that we’re signing, which are often being signed at lower than average. So it’s going to be a little bit, and then as you know, Derik, it takes a while for a program to ramp up, for example, so the revenue that you actually see. So there are going to be sort of puts and takes. It’ll be a little bit of, when do programs land in the year? How quickly do they ramp up? But that’s generally how to think about it. The government and large biopharma stuff is higher than average. The other stuff is lower.
Derik de Bruin
So, Jason, I’ll ask other bigger picture questions, so not to focus on the financials. So, I mean, when you look at the outsourcing market, I mean, obviously there’s been a lot of CROs. There’s been a lot of outsourcing for the number of years. I mean, how do you sort of see – how do you sort of see Ginkgo as it fits into that sort of like larger ecosystem? Are you trying to take business from some of the other CROs that are out there, some of the other sort of, like companies are doing discovery? Do you think you’re targeting a new market niche that’s there? Sort of like how do you fit in with the bigger – just sort of like how do you see yourself slotting into the bigger biopharma services complex, shall we say?
Jason Kelly
Yes. Yes, that’s a very good question. So I spend a lot of time looking at that. I would say the major thing is that the bulk of sort of things that get outsourced into CROs into contract research today is sort of a relatively small slice of work that often pharma companies know they can do well, but don’t want to do, right? So hey, Gucci, I want you to make this chemical library for me. Hey, Charles River, I want you to run this animal study for me. Evotec’s [ph] probably the one that’s got the most when it comes to doing any kind of like more advanced or discovery-based type contracts. But selling into these research areas, again, that are principally done in-house, which, again our niche, just to remind you, Derik, is engineering of cells. So changing the DNA of cells to make them do new things, that is really our niche. And that work by and large, is still done in-house. So we do see that, and by the way it’s a large part of the research budget for at least the biologics half of pharma not the small molecule. But for the biologics half biopharma and also in target discovery increasingly, there’s a good amount of that kind of work. And we just don’t see it being substantially outsourced right now.
Derik de Bruin
Got it. Thanks.
Jason Kelly
Yes. Good to hear from you.
Operator
Thanks, Derik. Our next question comes from Matt Larew at William Blair. Matt, your line is now open.
Matt Larew
Okay. Good evening and thanks. So Jason, the comparison to the sort of software tech ecosystem, I think sort of what strikes me is that perhaps the pace of innovation there is so quick because the ultimate customer adoption curve is so fast. There’s zero impediment to option, the UI is so easy. So that middle layer of companies of race to adopt the underlying technologies. And obviously, something you found bringing this to biopharma but other end markets is that there are far more barriers to sort of adoption and something you’ve launched TDK, you’ve done a variety of things to capabilities in-house and technology partnership here. What sort of you think have been the learning’s of the last couple of years of what actually can move the needle to reduce those barriers to adoption? Is it – are there regulatory dynamics that you’re attacking in government? Is it technology? Is it first mover, I don’t know what it is, but maybe share just what you’ve learned and how that’s informing kind of the strategic investments you’re making?
Jason Kelly
Yes. So I’ll break it into two parts. I do think one of the, again, I just compare biotech to tack I would say the overall product development cycle in biotech is probably 2 to 3x at least time lines relative to a substantial tech product. Obviously, you can launch any small thing quickly. But like a tech product that would deserve being compared to like a drug or something in terms of the opportunity. And so it’s not like these things happen instantaneously intact, but they do happen, I’d say, 2 to 3x faster. And so that path to market a lot of what makes it slow is regulatory. And so I do think thinking about regulatory, again, not about research tools or anything else, but just about getting biotech products in the market, I think, is important. Now I think in, for example, pharmaceuticals, that is a well-fought battle, right? In other words, like people are go out FDA has got a hard job, right? I don’t know if there’s a secret this magic wand to wave, although I do think there’s an interesting lesson in operation warp speed and what we did with COVID. And so I don’t want to rule out that there’s a lot faster ways to do it, but it’s a harder fight. In some of these other markets, though like in agriculture, for example, I think regulatory has gotten a bit out of whack. So you just don’t – you have regulatory that looks like pharmaceuticals, but the market doesn’t support that kind of timeline, and I would say the sort of safety history in agriculture, in other words like, almost at least, I’m not sure I even know of adverse events when it comes to genetically modified crops and things like that feels like it’s gotten a little bit out of whack. And so I do think there might be opportunities to change that and U.S. competitiveness and so on, where maybe that would help. So I do think that is just a net dampener on biotech versus tech. It doesn’t mean biotech is not a big industry it is. But if you wanted to really unlock it, I do think speed of products to market is one of the big ones, and a lot of that is regulatory. Now, given that it’s still huge, still really [ph] still $0.5 trillion. Like now we have big biopharma companies and they have big research budgets. So there’s still a question of getting infrastructure services adopted into the billions and billions of dollars being spent on research every year that are not going to infrastructure services. And so I think in the near years, particularly with Ginkgo’s revenues where they are now, where they’re still early and small, we have enormous growth by just tapping into that. So that is why you see me continually experimenting with this, Matt, right? Like, yep, we’re going to try this. We’ll try success based pricing, we’ll try technology network, because we need that same shift that, for example, the cloud service providers had to figure out when everyone was resistant to outsourcing their IT back in the mid-2000s, mid to late 2000s Right? So you got to try things, got to figure out what are the right micro services, what’s the right sales process, so on. And we’re happy to be running those experiments. We think we’re the leader. Like I said, I like our position overall, but it is still a puzzle to get worked out. And the faster we unlock it, especially in biopharma, it’s the gating rate on all this technology.
Matt Larew
Right, okay, thanks.
Jason Kelly
And then expect us to keep doing it. Right like we’re not, I’m not going to – on the fundamentals. I think this was really true when it came to like cloud infrastructure back in 2008 or whatever. Everyone’s like, I don’t want to put my data on Amazon services in Seattle, servers in Seattle. I trust my IT people, I don’t trust their IT people. Their uptime is bad and AWS is just sitting there knowing the scale economic means that centralized compute will win. And that is when we see this 40% to 50% drop in campaign costs. The scale economic means that centralized automated labs are going to win in the long run. And so we just got to be there for it and ultimately clear the path for adoption.
Matt Larew
Right. Okay, thanks for those thoughts. And then speaking of improvement of campaign costs, and you referenced the impact of the RAC’s from
Jason Kelly
Yes. Again, I can actually speak to that a little bit. So there’s a pretty interesting phenomena from the semiconductor industry where you would have generational improvements in semiconductor tech, right? So you would have an X nanometer fab, and then two years later, two or three years later, you’d have a smaller nanometer Y nanometer fab. Right. And in the intervening years, what would happen is you basically build a fab with that generation’s technology. The next year you’d expand capacity, you’d make it bigger, and then you would move on to, in the third year, or approximately, a new generation of the tech that Y nanometer fab. And I think what’s really exciting is what we’ve been doing over the last year and a half in particular, is moving to like a new generation of the infrastructure. We’re moving to this RAC automation. We think it’s massively flexible, it’s more scalable, and that’s been us sort of like proving it out in our current facility, getting it working, putting more customer programs through it, migrating more of our stuff from old automation to that. If that keeps going, which I’m bullish, it will, then 2025 should be about the right time to build out scale of that technology. And so that’s what we’re really excited about is we do think it’s a chance to expand again, purpose built facility around that sort of RAC hardware, largely to do the automation. So we’ll see if it plays out exactly like that. But that is what we’re going for with that facility. And I’m hopeful, again with the expansion of work in biopharma and other places, that it’ll be good timing to do it.
Matt Larew
Okay, thank you for the questions.
Operator
Thanks, Matt. And our last set of questions comes from Michael Freeman at Raymond James. Michael, your line is now open.
Michael Freeman
Great. Hey Jason, Mark and Megan, can you hear me. All right.
Jason Kelly
Yes. It’s good to hear you, Michael.
Michael Freeman
Terrific. Good to see you. Thanks for having me on. First congratulations on bringing this technology network together. These are some of the coolest companies we’re aware of in the space, so it’s cool that you’re teaming up. Curious, what are some of the qualifying characteristics for companies to join that technology network? And seeing that on the same day you announced several acquisitions and the technology network, I wonder what governs your decision making around which technologies to acquire, bring in-house and which companies and technologies to partner with?
Jason Kelly
Yes, that’s a good question. I can take that. So first off, I think that’s going to be a moving front. Right. Like what should we bring in house versus what can we partner? It depends a little bit on how this technology network goes. Right. So today we’re acquiring, when we see a good opportunity, it’s a mix of sort of breakthrough technology. So sometimes it’s a piece of, in the case of proof, it’s like a key piece of molecular technology that we think is quite interesting and a complement to other gene editors and things like that. But on the teams right. We’re really excited to bring on the teams, particularly as we’re trying to grow our strength in AI and modeling and ML in these areas. We can sort of speed up the development of that by bringing a mix of some of the software and data and the people who are just excellent and have been thinking that way for years. And so that’s some stuff that we know we need to have core, right? Like we know we need to be core in AI as we go into this sort of large data and large neural net models, world of the future that I think is absolutely working in biotechnology, so that we know we need to have. But in the future, some of these an editor technology or things like that probably comes in better through the partner network. Right. Through the technology network, if I’m being honest. But we got to make sure that we figure out how that all is going to work. Right. And one of the things I’m hopeful on, you asked about like bringing people on network today. It was people we thought were, you mentioned a lot of the cool technology you’ve seen is out there. It’s people we knew, people we really respected what they were doing, and so we are doing that over time. I’d also just like to, as we get some experience with this, I want to standardize those interfaces so that, hey, listen, there might be somebody else who’s got a brilliant idea. I’ve never met them. They’re a new startup. They’re a tool developer. And in a perfect world, it’s almost like they can drop into a distribution channel. Right? Like they can go get business from the biopharma industry even when they’re small, and a new upstart via some sort of standardization of how that works at Ginkgo. If you play the tape out a year or two in the future, maybe we get to somewhere like that. But a lot’s going to depend on just our experience bringing this kind of combined effort to some of our customers and seeing how it goes.
Michael Freeman
All right, that’s helpful. Thank you. And now, next question. Last quarter, you provided some metrics around fully commercialized programs and commercialization in progress. These are six and 15, respectively. I wonder if you could provide an update at the end of this year.
Mark Dmytruk
Yes, I don’t have an update for you, Michael, but I could take that offline, potentially.
Michael Freeman
Sounds good. Thanks very much. That’s all for me.
Jason Kelly
I did love the slide where we showed like all the programs and how they were progressing to us.
Michael Freeman
My favorite slide.
Jason Kelly
Swear to God to scale…
Mark Dmytruk
I think, Michael, my section got too long for today to begin.
Jason Kelly
Yes. Thanks, Michael.
Michael Freeman
Thanks, guys.
Megan LeDuc
All right, thanks, Michael. That wraps up all of our questions. Thanks for sticking with us. I know we went a little long today, but Jason, do you have any closing thoughts for us?
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