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Hello, and thank you for standing by. My name is Ms. Regina, and I will be your conference greeter today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Armstrong World Industries, Inc. Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2025 Earnings Call. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to turn the conference over to Theresa Womble, Vice President, Investor Relations and Corporate Communications. Please go ahead.

Thank you, Regina, and welcome, everyone, to our call this morning. Today, we have Vic Grizzle, our CEO; Chris Calzaretta, our CFO; along with Mark Hershey, our Chief Operating Officer, who will discuss Armstrong World Industries fourth quarter 2020 (sic) [ 2025 ] results and our outlook for 2026. We have provided a presentation to accompany these comments that is available on the Investor Relations section of the Armstrong World Industries website. Our discussion of operating and financial performance will include non-GAAP financial measures within the meaning of SEC Regulation G. A reconciliation of these measures with the most directly comparable GAAP measures is included in the earnings press release and in the appendix of the presentation issued this morning, both available on our Investor Relations website. During this call, we will be making forward-looking statements that represent the view we have of our financial and operational performance as of today's date, February 24, 2026. These statements involve risks and uncertainties, that may differ materially from those expected or implied. We provide a detailed discussion of the risks and uncertainties in our SEC filings, including our 10-K filed earlier this morning. We undertake no obligation to update any forward-looking statement beyond what is required by applicable securities law. With that, I will now turn the call to Vic.

Thank you, Theresa. And, good morning, and thank you for joining our call today. As many of you know, this will be my last Armstrong's earnings call as CEO, as I'll be moving into the Executive Chairman position on April 1. And as previously announced, Mark Hershey, currently our Chief Operating Officer, will be taking the helm as President and CEO effective at that time. It has been both a privilege and an honor to have led this great company for the past 10 years. Throughout my 15 years here at Armstrong, Mark has served alongside me in various key leadership roles. His extensive experience and track record of delivering results, combined with his strong dedication to our values and our culture of operational excellence, make him both well-equipped, and ready to lead this organization. We will hear from Mark later in the call today to discuss our recent acquisition of Eventscape and some advancements in our new product innovations. So let me begin with our record-setting 2025 results. 2025 represented another year of strong execution and a full demonstration of our resilient business model that delivered profitable growth despite persistently challenging market conditions. It was our team's continued execution at the highest level across the enterprise that enabled us to deliver another record-setting double-digit growth year across all key metrics, again, even as market conditions remained unfavorable. At the total company level for the full year, our net sales increased 12% from the prior year, and our adjusted EBITDA grew 14% with our adjusted EBITDA margin expanding 70 basis points. As noted in our press release that we issued earlier, 2025 was our second consecutive year of double-digit growth, where the core values of Armstrong were on full display, such as strong Mineral Fiber average unit value growth, robust productivity across our operations and double-digit top line growth in our Architectural Specialties segment. Our 2025 results also marked the fifth consecutive year of net sales and earnings growth. And also notable, this is the third consecutive year we have reported year-over-year adjusted EBITDA margin expansion. These strong and consistent results reflect our team's ability to steadily execute across the enterprise in all parts of the cycle. So before getting to our quarterly results, I want to take a moment and recognize and express my gratitude to our team of nearly 4,000 employees. Their commitment and their passion for what we do, and dedication to serving our customers are not only impressive, but they're unique and a key driver of our continued success. So thank you to the entire Armstrong team. Now turning to our fourth quarter results. In the quarter, we finished with softer results than expected, even though we had solid AUV growth in Mineral Fiber with favorable like-for-like pricing, strong productivity, more than offsetting inflation and continued double-digit top line growth in Architectural Specialties. Softer results on the top line in Mineral Fiber mainly came from the impact of the extended government shutdown that disrupted maintenance and repair activity for government buildings across the U.S. In addition, we did not see the normal bounce back after reopening, which impacted Mineral Fiber volumes in notable areas like our Washington, D.C. territory, and with our MRO customers serving the repair and maintenance activity in government buildings. Softer-than-expected results in the quarter also occurred in the Architectural Specialties segment, primarily driven by key project delays. This created a cost imbalance in the quarter, temporarily compressing margins in the AS segment. Together, these drivers formed an air pocket of sorts for the total company results that we expect to work through in the coming quarters. As I mentioned in the quarter, average unit value, or AUV, in our Mineral Fiber segment increased 6% on strong like-for-like price performance and positive impact, positive product mix driven by our innovative products. Despite short-term pressures created by these temporary market events, Mineral Fiber EBITDA increased 15% to a record fourth quarter result and a record fourth quarter EBITDA margin of 42.1%. Architectural Specialties delivered 11% top line growth with solid inorganic and organic contributions despite the project delays. And importantly, order intake growth continued to be strong at double-digit levels year-over-year in the fourth quarter, sustaining our momentum heading into 2026. We continue to see strength in the transportation vertical for a broad portfolio of AS products, and we continue to win large airport projects with recent wins at LAX and Salt Lake City International Airport. We continue to expect the transportation vertical to provide a tailwind for several years to come. Both the Mineral Fiber and Architectural Specialties segments contributed to our record results in 2025, with our strong focus on operation -- operational execution being a key contributor to our sustained leadership position, and our growth initiatives providing above-market growth rates. Operational excellence enabled now by technology is critical both in terms of profitability as well as from the eyes of our customer in terms of quality and service. And this was an outstanding year in both areas, with our teams delivering a record high result for our perfect order measure. This measure I've described before, tracks our performance across multiple metrics that are critical for maintaining our best-in-class customer service levels, things like on-time delivery, product defects, billing accuracy. Executing at high levels across these areas not only drives customer satisfaction, but it also supports our pricing performance in competitive markets and reinforces the strength of our market position. After a few years of foundational investment in our growth initiatives, they continue to scale and are contributing to our business model and are creating value as a competitive differentiator for the company. On the digital front, the use of PROJECTWORKS, our automated design platform continues to grow and generate higher win rates on projects when the service was used, reinforcing its value again as a competitive differentiator. Kanopi also continued to perform well and contribute nicely to our growth in 2025, providing an easy way for otherwise underserved customers to access a broad range of products through a simple online selling platform. We are pleased to see record revenue and EBITDA results for Kanopi in 2025, with each quarter providing a positive EBITDA contribution. Now, in addition to these successful digital growth initiatives, with growing opportunities in data centers and energy-saving ceilings, total contributions from our growth initiatives are positioned to further accelerate in 2026 and beyond. And Mark is going to cover these two key growth opportunities here in a moment. All in all, these results together with our growth initiatives, were another demonstration of how our business model, and our strategy can deliver growth above the market and do so profitably through our pricing discipline, operational excellence and strong operating leverage. Now I'll turn the call over to Chris for more details on our financial results. Chris?

Thanks, Vic, and good morning to everyone on the call. As a reminder, throughout my remarks, I'll be referring to the slides available on our website. And please note that Slide 3 details our basis of presentation. On Slide 8, we begin with our Mineral Fiber segment results for the fourth quarter. Mineral Fiber sales grew 3% in the quarter, driven by AUV growth of 6%, partially offset by lower sales volumes. The increase in AUV was primarily driven by favorable like-for-like pricing, along with a positive contribution from mix. Volumes in the quarter were softer than we expected, primarily due to short-term headwinds from the indirect impacts of the federal government shutdown as well as softer home center demand. Mineral Fiber segment adjusted EBITDA grew by 15% in the quarter with adjusted EBITDA margin expanding 460 basis points to 42.1%, despite lower volumes. As Vic mentioned, Mineral Fiber's adjusted EBITDA margin of 42.1% in the quarter marked the best Q4 margin performance in the segment since 2016. Adjusted EBITDA margin expansion was primarily driven by the fall-through of AUV, which benefited from strong like-for-like price benefit and a favorable claims adjustment in the quarter, higher equity earnings from our WAVE joint venture, favorable SG&A expenses and lower input costs. From a full year perspective, Mineral Fiber adjusted EBITDA margin finished at a record-setting 43.5%, surpassing the high watermark of 2019. This level of financial performance underscores our Mineral Fiber value creation drivers including consistent AUV growth, annual productivity gains and positive contributions from our WAVE joint venture, along with our disciplined focus on cost control. On Slide 9, we discuss our Architectural Specialties or AS segment results. Double-digit sales growth of 11% in the quarter was driven primarily by contributions from our 2024 acquisitions of 3form and

Thank you, Chris, and good morning, everyone. First, I'd like to start by expressing how honored and proud I am to have the opportunity to serve as the next CEO of Armstrong World Industries, particularly at this exciting time in our history. Armstrong has a rich legacy of innovation in ceilings and specialty walls, and that legacy remains fully intact today, and it provides an exceptional platform for continued success. I look forward with confidence to working alongside our executive leadership team, our dedicated employees, and our trusted partners as we together write the company's next chapter. Vic, you are leaving the business stronger and more resilient than it's ever been and perhaps most importantly, well positioned for continued growth. On behalf of the entire organization, thank you for your dedicated and outstanding service to our company and the strong foundation you will leave behind. As Vic and Chris have noted, 2025 represented another record year in a multiyear period of profitable growth. Those results were driven by our resilient business model, and our consistent focus on AUV growth, productivity, innovation and expansion of our Architectural Specialties business. Over the last decade through innovation and acquisitions, we've successfully expanded the company's reach beyond traditional Mineral Fiber ceilings to a broader set of solutions, including specialty ceilings and walls with a growing platform for design-centric solutions for more and more spaces within the built environment. And now we are expanding our solutions for energy-efficient buildings and for data centers, 2 of the most durable and accelerating growth markets in construction today. Throughout 2025, we continue to pursue and prioritize innovation aligned with both of those powerful macro trends. First, the increasing need to reduce energy consumption as power demand accelerates and power costs rise. And second, the rapid global build-out of data centers driven by cloud computing and AI. These are long-term structural shifts, and they are reshaping how buildings are designed and operated. And the fourth quarter of 2025 marked an important step in our commercialization of innovation in these 2 key areas. On the energy efficiency front, we introduced an upgraded TEMPLOK energy-saving ceiling solution within our Sustain portfolio. This new solution enhances passive heating and cooling performance, improves fire rating and thermal comfort and gives architects more design flexibility. As customers from owners to contractors to architects, better understand TEMPLOK's multiple value propositions and economic benefits supported by tax credit incentives and real-world validation through case studies, we are seeing interest and adoption grow. For example, we are currently shipping TEMPLOK for office renovation projects with 2 major financial services firms in New York City. And we were recently awarded TEMPLOK specifications for higher education projects on both the East and West Coast. We expect much more to come on this exciting opportunity as we develop the market for this multidimensional new ceiling solution. In data centers, the fastest-growing vertical in commercial construction, our opportunity extends beyond ceilings to engineered infrastructure. In Q4, we launched DATA

Thank you, Mark. And as you can hear from Mark's comments, we have a lot to be excited about here at Armstrong in 2026 and beyond. The recent acquisitions like Parallel and Eventscape expand our sales opportunities within commercial buildings and further strengthen our relationships with architects and designers. The innovation we've highlighted enables our competitiveness in 2 new growth areas of the market, data centers and energy savings, both of which contribute to consistent Mineral Fiber AUV growth, incremental volume growth ahead of the market. These are key building blocks for continued consistent profitable growth. Now looking ahead to our market outlook, we are encouraged with some improvement in visibility. However, high levels of uncertainty around policy around interest rates, potential geopolitical events still exist. In 2026, we expect underlying market conditions to be steady and slightly improved versus what we experienced in 2025. Within this outlook, we expect transportation to remain an area of growth, along with data centers and the gradual healing of the office vertical. As we experienced in 2025, we also expect to have near-term opportunities from new construction starts in the healthcare and education verticals from projects that were initiated in the past 24 to 30 months. Now while the office vertical does appear to have bottomed, and we see green shoots of opportunity emerging, we haven't yet seen a significant return of broad tenant improvement work at this point. It is worth noting that even as a full recovery in office has yet to materialize, we are seeing in the bid data, that project bids are at meaningfully higher values, meaning that building owners who are doing tenant improvements are investing more into office spaces to enhance their aesthetics, their functionality and their amenities. Now this is encouraging and represent a prime opportunity for Armstrong to leverage our broad portfolio of products, playing to our strength at the high end of the market. In closing, I want to thank our employees again for their dedication and solid execution that enabled us to deliver another year of record results in 2025 and really set us up for continued success in 2026. We have executed well on our strategy and enhanced our value-creating building blocks. With our growth initiatives that we've invested in through the pandemic, we are now delivering above market performance. And we have made several strategic acquisitions that have expanded our capabilities and our addressable market. Over the 10-year journey we've had at Armstrong, we have purposely built a highly focused Americas ceilings and Architectural Specialty company that delivers consistent, profitable growth. By separating from the flooring business, and divesting of our international operations, we have reduced complexity and focused our investments in North American market, which have strengthened our market position, made our business more resilient and improved our returns to shareholders. Our cash generation has nearly tripled. We have returned over $1.5 billion to shareholders. And through the execution of our strategy, we have significantly increased the value of the company. And today, I am more confident than ever that we are poised to continue on this path in years to come. And with that, we'll be happy to take your questions.

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Tomohiko Sano with JPMorgan.

Vic, thank you for your leadership and congrats on your transition to Chairman. We look forward to continued execution under Mark's leadership. So my question is for the 6% AUV growth in 2026, what is the price and mix split? And how sustainable is the pricing power in the current competitive environment? And what the customer is saying about the price versus value delivered, please?

Yes. Our AUV performance was above historical levels, as you've noted at 6%, and normally, and if you look at this over a long period of time like the past 10 years, it ranges about 50-50 or averages about 50-50. In '25, we had a little bit more price than we did mix contribution based on inflationary pressures and that we were pricing into. So the mix was a little bit more biased toward like-for-like pricing than mix. Going forward, as Chris can outline, we're seeing -- we're anticipating some additional inflation in '26, and our expectation is with our normal cadence on pricing, we're going to continue to price ahead of that inflation and likely to end up with a more positive bias toward like-for-like pricing and mix in the year. That's kind of how we're thinking about it sitting here today.

And my follow-up is that under Mark's leadership, how should we think about the strategic continuity and top priority over the next 12 months, and any key KPIs, please?

I'll let Mark take that.

Yes, happy to take that. Thank you for the question. Obviously, Vic and I, and the leadership team have worked very closely together over the last 7 years or more in my different roles on strategy. So you should not expect a pivot in our strategic direction. I'll be focused on and continue to be focused on innovation, for sure, will be a priority. Our growth initiatives, the initiatives we've had in digital, initiatives I talked about today, so energy savings and data centers and some of the hallmarks of the business, productivity as well as inorganic growth, whether M&A or partnerships as well. So the same consistent areas of emphasis, the same consistent overall strategic objective, consistent profitable growth.

Our next question comes from the line of Susan Maklari with Goldman Sachs.

And let me add my congratulations to both Mark and Vic. Looking forward to working with Mark and Vic. Enjoy your new time. So my question is talking a bit about the operating environment. You did mention in your remarks, if you are seeing bids for office that are at least meaningfully higher in value, can you talk about how these products and the platforms that you've launched in the last couple of years are gaining momentum and how they're perhaps coming through even with some of the headwinds that it sounds like you're facing?

Yes. Let me start just with the actual starts of work in the marketplace is fairly flattish, and it kind of, I think, represents what we're feeling in the market overall. And when you look at the office vertical, in particular, yes, the value stands out, and it's well above inflationary numbers, right? You might look at value bidding numbers and say, yes, well, there's a lot of inflation in there. And there are inflation in these numbers, but they're well above inflationary levels. And of course, this also is consistent with what we're seeing in the marketplace and the specifications that we're working on, where they're using a lot more architectural specialty-type products in certain areas of the building to create these different fields and amenities to entice employees back to work and to keep them in the office. So we were anticipating this coming as more and more constraints are on availability of Class A office space and Class B spaces had to be upgraded to compete. We were anticipating this, but I'm calling this out because it's really notable in the bid data to see how the values are meaningfully higher than you would normally expect from inflationary pressures there. And of course, the answer -- just to add to that, I would just add that this is where having the breadth of product portfolio that we have, that includes Mineral Fiber where they need to use that, but now a whole host of a pallet of materials that we can allow architects to design with. It's really a one-stop shop advantage that we can bring for all different types of designs and all different types of spaces within these buildings. Now it happens to be more prevalent in office spaces, which is, again, a really good opportunity for us.

Yes. Okay. And that kind of leads to my follow-up question, Vic, which is, can you talk about the integration of the deals that you have done in the last couple of years, where we are in that process? And in your remarks, you also mentioned investments in capacity to support future growth. And so how should we think of the integration and these investments that you're making and the potential for upside over time?

Yes. I think the way I think about the integration of these businesses is it's a continuum of work, and we take them step by step. And the objective here is to get them to take advantage of the large platform, Armstrong has to offer them. So mostly on the revenue-generating side, right, some of the biggest synergies we have with these acquisitions as we scale them in their first couple of years on the platform. They're in hundreds of more architects' offices and through our distribution network. So we try to do some of those steps initially as then we bring on more and more productivity and more and more of the operational sides of the business and eventually footprint optimization work. So we kind of think about this as a continuing ongoing work. Again, when you look at -- and I would just point you to the revenue generation in the Architectural Specialty business, with these companies that we're buying, they're certainly not growing at high single-digit levels. And it really comes down to -- we're scaling these through our integration work on the Armstrong platform very successfully. So I'm really pleased with those early stages of integration. And I would just say, as we go, we're going to continue to integrate these businesses on the operational side to drive more operating leverage from the revenue growth, but also more productivity in the plants. And that's how we get to the 20% goal that we put out there and how we're going to sustain that over time.

Our next question comes from the line of Keith Hughes with Truist.

Just a couple of detailed questions on '26. What kind of inflation expectation -- input inflation expectation do you have for Mineral Fiber for the year?

Yes. Keith, it's Chris. So for '26 overall inputs at the mid-single-digit inflation range versus prior year on a percentage basis. And just a reminder, our detail of that is about 35% of our COGS is raws, about 10% is freight, 10% energy and 10% labor. So if I break that mid-single-digit inflation down, freight is about flat year-over-year, and we're seeing low single-digit percent inflation in raws. That's really on some of our fiberglass paper and perlite inputs. And then energy inflation in that, call it, low double-digit 10% to 12% range, and that's really a split between electricity and nat gas, but a little bit of nat gas pressure here for 2026. So all up all-in mid-single inputs for '26.

Okay. And the -- as you pointed out in the prepared comments, the AUV expectation is a little bit higher than you get, although you could actually, if we look at it over the last several years, it's been close to 6% in many years -- last couple of years. Can you just talk about what's going on in the business that you're just getting a higher number than we have historically?

Yes, I'd say in -- as Vic mentioned earlier about the like-for-like pricing and positive contributions for mix in that AUV, it really goes back to our innovation, and our service and our quality dimensions of the business. We continue to get and can see that more price than mix dynamic here, certainly with that inflationary backdrop that I mentioned, but also coupled with our investments back into the business to really drive that innovation part of the equation. So again, we feel good about that 6% for 2026. And if I look at it on a first half, back half kind of split dynamic, it's relatively even first half to be about the same as the back half. But again, as we think about the investments back into the business, that's a really big core value creation driver for us and one that we're very excited about in 2026 and beyond.

Okay. And finally, my congratulations to you as well, Vic. It's been a tremendous run since you took over the company. So a job well done.

Our next question will come from the line of Adam Baumgarten with Vertical Research Partners.

Just starting on the Mineral Fiber EBITDA guide for '26. I know, it's fairly open-ended, above 35.5% or 43.5%, I should say, but that's despite 6% to 7% revenue growth. So is there anything offsetting that from a cost perspective? I know, you talked about AUV covering inflation, maybe getting some SG&A leverage. Is it just conservatism, just because it's a pretty solid top line, and it seems like price cost will be favorable?

Yes. No, Adam, it is a good question. No. I mean, I'd say, I'd point really back to the value creation drivers that we've been talking about solid AUV growth. What we haven't talked about is the manufacturing productivity that we get year in and year out. I mentioned in my prepared remarks kind of the overall investments back into the business on CapEx and a lot of what we see manifest themselves in that productivity is really investing back into that pipeline to continue to get those productivity gains. So no, I mean, overall, you hit on SG&A, and I talked about SG&A in terms of how we're thinking about getting that leverage, but we will be investing in SG&A for our growth initiatives in 2026, but are pleased with the fact that we're outlooking another year of overall EBITDA margin expansion given those solid value creation drivers that I mentioned.

Okay. Got it. And then just on the government channel that was weak given the shutdown, and it seems a bit slower to come back. Are you seeing any positive signs there? And is any kind of recovery from that weakness late last year built into the outlook in '26?

Yes, this is Vic. Yes, we did see a bounce back in January. We certainly would have expected this in November and December, but with the holidays around that, it was -- it did not bounce back as robustly as we thought it would be. But we did see it in January, and we would expect a lot of this to be filtering back in over the next several months. The second part of your question is that we've already kind of factored this into our outlook for the year.

Our next question will come from the line of Rafe Jadrosich with Bank of America.

This is actually Shaun Calnan on for Rafe. So first, the Architectural Specialties organic growth has slowed over the last two quarters, but you're expecting it to return to high single-digit growth in 2026. What are you seeing in the pipeline that gives you the confidence that, that growth picks up? And did you see any delays in projects in the second half that we are going to benefit 2026?

Yes, I'll take that. In the Architectural Specialties segment, we had a really strong back half of '24. So a little bit of that deceleration you're referencing, it's more of a base period comparison versus the actual run rate of the business. We've actually been generating a backflow -- a backlog growth with our order intake in double-digit levels. So it's this kind of where we are currently with our backlog and the way it's been growing throughout 2025. For '26 and actually beyond into '27 already, that gives us really, I think, the confidence that we need for returning to high single-digit levels of growth. And remember, there's some large projects in here, and they can ebb and flow quarter-to-quarter. Certainly, as we saw at the end of the year, they can actually move out of the year and impact on a quarterly basis. But as the year goes, I think we'll benefit from those, and those are factored into, again, factored into our guidance for 2026. I feel really good about where we are with our order rates and how we're winning in the marketplace with our breadth of portfolio in this space.

Okay. Great. And then it sounded like you're expecting Mineral Fiber volumes down in the first half, but up in the second half. Can you talk about what gives you the confidence that you'll see growth in the second half and if there's any specific verticals that you expect to outperform versus underperform?

Yes, I'll take the first part of that question, yes. So we expect growth for the year flat to up 1% with a stronger back half than front half of the year on the weather dynamics and the seasonality that I mentioned in my prepared remarks. So positive for the year, but a little bit stronger in the back half than the front half with, as you can imagine, given the weather -- winter weather impacts we've seen here in the first quarter, a more muted start in Q1. Vic, do you want to talk about the vertical component of that?

Vertical of office?

Yes.

Yes. The -- I think as we've talked about with the office vertical, we're not expecting an inflection where it just turns on, and then here we go. I think it's a very gradual, and it's going to be an uneven recovery across the U.S. So I think it's going to build, if we have some of this uncertainty continue to clear up as we go in through the year, it could build into the second half. I think the other thing, as Mark talked about, the excitement around data centers and energy savings, these are two new early-stage growth initiatives. Each quarter as we go, we should be continuing to build contributions from those initiatives that are additive to our base growth initiatives in digital. So a lot of those things kind of adding up that gives us the outlook of a stronger back half.

Our next question comes from the line of John Lovallo with UBS.

The first one on Architectural Specialty organic EBITDA margins 18.7% for the year that was -- you talked about was slightly below that 20% outlook. But I'm curious if you could help us kind of bucket the drivers between the lower organic revenue, some of the project timing and maybe any other factors that played in there?

Yes, John, if you're asking about the project delays that impacted that cost imbalance, I can give a little more color there. But let me finish there, but start with, we continue to make good progress on our stated goal of getting this Architectural segment to 20%. Again, this is the fourth year in a row of margin expansion in that business on our way to '27. So I feel like we have the right levers. We know what the right building blocks are for us to deliver that. In fact, we had two quarters in '25, where we were north of 20%. So, again, I think we know what to do. We know how to get there. We really didn't have the operating leverage in the fourth quarter based on these project pushouts. We had the cost in place. There were 5 good-sized projects. And in fact, they were all delayed in December. And so normally, and we experienced project delays all the time in this Architectural Specialties segment, we've talked about this. Normally, they're picked up in the same reporting period. So in this case, they not only fell out of the quarter, they fell out of the year because they were in December. And they were primarily education and health care projects. And so because they were sizable, that just created this imbalance of cost, and therefore, the margin compression. This will work its way out. I think, again, we're back -- we know what the right levers, and the right building blocks are to deliver a 20% EBITDA segment in Architectural Specialties. Did that get to your question, John?

Yes. That's helpful. And then I guess just on the Mineral Fiber growth piece, the 0% to 1% this year. I mean, I know that the longer-term outlook is sort of 2% to 4%. Help us kind of think about the path towards that 2% to 4%, what do we need to see in terms of the market and just internal execution? And what, if any timing guidelines you guys have around that?

Yes, good question. I mean we're moving that direction, right? When you look at -- it's been a while since we've outlooked positive Mineral Fiber volume growth, right, in the year. So we're moving in that direction. Remember, the 2% to 4% had 2 components to it. It was a market recovery of 1 to 2 points of growth from the market recovery off of the -- getting us back to 2019 levels. And then there was 1 to 2 points of contribution from our growth initiatives. So as Mark outlined, we're moving in that direction of the 1 to 2 on our growth initiatives, which is what we can control and with a little bit of the healing going on that we're expecting in '26, and we'll see if that continues into '27 and '28. But that's how you get to that 2% to 4% range. I still believe that, that's a good midterm type outlook for Mineral Fiber volume growth.

Our next question will come from the line of Garik Shmois with Loop Capital.

On the data centers and energy saving projects, I wonder if you could speak to just how large your overall portfolio to these projects represent, just in the context of the 0.5 point of growth, you're expecting them to contribute this year? And then also, maybe can you speak to any mix impact these projects have on margins?

Mark, I'll take this and if you want to add any color. The -- let me just start with on the AUV side, these -- both of these initiatives are accretive to our AUV. So we really like selling more of these products in terms of that financial metric of growing our AUV. They're really consistent with the innovation that we're bringing to market is supportive of that continuation of that AUV growth. On the margin side and contribution of that, I think the data center tile in particular, is further down the road in terms of scaling in terms of the -- getting the operating leverage and the margins up. And energy savings is still in the early stages of getting really good operating leverage on the $10 million investment that we made down in one of our plants that we talked about in '25. So we do expect both of these to be consistent with our 60% incremental contribution to EBITDA as they grow over time. So again, I think these are really 2 high-value applications for us to continue to innovate and build out our portfolio on. I'm not sure I got all of your question, but Mark do you want to add anything to that?

Yes, Vic. I mean, obviously, and I mentioned this in my remarks, the data center category is growing, and we've got an opportunity to penetrate that category further. Energy savings plays across all of our verticals, frankly. And early days, we've seen a high level of interest in office and education that plays really well across all our verticals. And there were both -- both of these initiatives are supported by macro trends. So we are on trend with our value propositions in both of these spaces and a lot of energy behind both of them.

No. That's helpful. Follow-up question is just on the home center softness you saw in Q4. Was that destocking by chance or just the general sluggishness in that channel?

Yes, it's kind of more of the same of what we've seen quarter-to-quarter than moving some of their inventory levels around. So primarily destocking again in the fourth quarter. And again, this is a dynamic they can sell down from their inventories, and then build up back up very unevenly. So fourth quarter was more of the same. To a lesser degree, of course, than some of the other things we mentioned, though.

Our next question comes from the line of Brian Biros with TRG.

Vic and Mark, congratulations on the new roles. On the Mineral Fiber volumes, can you maybe just compare today's level to like pre-COVID? Because while volumes have been down, you've been able to perform very well. So I think it's kind of important to understand what you've been able to do at this lower volume level and kind of how we keep that in mind for when and if volumes do return?

Yes, it's a good question. 2019 levels, we're still about 14% -- as we finished '25, we're still 14% below 2019 volume levels. So yes, I mean, getting back to one of the earlier questions on market contribution to that 2% to 4% volume range. We have quite a bit of ways to go to get back to 2019 levels. And we believe that as long as the market verticals heal back to where they were, and there's nothing structurally in their way to doing that, we should be able to get back to 2019 levels. So that really is a flywheel opportunity. When you look at the margins that we're back to now, we're back to 2019 margin levels without 14% of the volume. So yes, very good opportunity for the company in the future.

Yes. That's a good story at the margin level. And then maybe a follow-up on visibility last year kind of always as choppiness around repair and remodel side, maybe like 6 months plus out, and then that kind of seemed to come in slightly better than expected at the beginning of the year last year. So Vic, how do you view visibility now for 2026 in that lens? I think you touched on it a little bit in the prepared remarks, but maybe just compare and contrast the visibility today versus a year ago?

Yes. I mean we're pretty good at modeling what's going on. There's not a lot of visibility on the renovation, especially some of the lower-level renovation work that doesn't involve, say, an architect. We've talked about this in the past. We have the least amount of visibility in that part of the Mineral Fiber business kind of just shows up through distribution. So we have to model that based on what drives that by vertical. And what drives it in the office vertical is very different than it drives in the education. So how we do that is we do a lot of modeling and triangulation. And of course, our ear to the ground with our customers in the marketplace. Again, we're pretty good at it. We don't get it perfectly every quarter, but on a year-to-year basis, our models are pretty good. So that's kind of how we do it. I think going into '26 and beyond, we'll continue to use the technology, the AI modeling capabilities that we have now to just get better and better at that.

Our next question will come from the line of Stephen Kim with Evercore ISI.

Vic, yes, congratulations, really a job well done and Mark, looking forward to working with you. Mark, I wanted to clarify a couple of things you said, there was a lot of talk about with respect to innovation, which is obviously a good thing. PROJECTWORKS, Kanopi, Healthy Spaces, TEMPLOK, DYNAMEX, SKYLO, you talked about the data centers initiative and the energy savings initiative. So what I wanted to first do is just make sure I understood your terms because you said that the some component of these added 1% of growth in 2025 and you expect an additional 0.5 point in figure '26. So what exactly was the 1%? And what exactly is going to be the 0.5 point that you're talking about? And I guess, generally, why would there be a deceleration? I would actually think given the momentum that there would be, maybe an acceleration in the contribution. So if you could just clarify that for me, it would be great.

Yes, very fair. Happy to clarify. There is an acceleration that is the point I'm trying to make. I was trying to highlight the addition and the emphasis on data centers and energy savings as an accelerant to the other pool of initiatives that you mentioned there. So our initiatives, in general, that we've talked about historically are driving that first point. And with the addition and the ramping of energy savings and data center focus, there's an incremental 0.5 point on that initiative progress.

Okay. So does that mean that in 2026 relative to '25, that the contribution would be 50 basis points? Or are you saying it's 150 basis points? I'm just trying to make sure I'm understanding what you're trying to communicate.

Yes, incremental year-on-year 150.

Got you. okay. That clarifies it. I appreciate that. All right. Great. And then I guess, secondarily, you've talked in the past about PROJECTWORKS and Kanopi as being a real differentiator for your business. And I'm curious if you see AI, the emergence of artificial intelligence as the positive or negative for some of your initiatives, particularly, I guess, with Kanopi. In the sense that I would think that AI might enhance their functionality, but I could also theoretically see it leveling the playing field a bit for your competitors. So wondering if you could talk a little bit about what you see in terms of the impact of AI as a positive or a negative factor for those initiatives?

Will you take that?

Yes, happy to take that. So I think on the whole, it's a positive. And in fact, some of our initiatives, broadly speaking, are embedding AI, and it's one of the most prominent places we've got AI utilization in the organization is to enable -- further enable our existing initiatives. And we feel good about that focus, in particular, with specification excellence. We've talked about in the past as really an amplifier to that initiative. And just as we will across the organization, I could see all of our initiatives benefiting from the use. But early days for some of the initiatives, but in particular, spec excellence is the one that I think really is accelerated by AI.

And, Stephen, you know that winning the specification is really, really an important part of our strategy, right? As you -- over the years, you've come to know that's a key part to our pricing model, and of course, our innovation. So the fact that we're using AI there to even strengthen that core strength of ours is pretty exciting.

Our final question will come from the line of Phil Ng with Jefferies.

Vic, congrats, and thanks for the partnership. And Mark, looking forward to working with you. I guess, to kind of kick things off, Vic, you sound a little more upbeat on the outlook for Mineral Fiber, right? I mean you're calling for a flat to up, which is encouraging. But you also -- I think Chris highlighted it's going to be a softer first half. I don't know if you just trying to signal volume is going to be down in the first half. But you sound more upbeat but slower start to the year. Can you kind of help square that up? And perhaps where is that optimism coming from? Are you hearing from your customers that they're seeing a more robust backlog? What's driving some of that?

Yes. There's still a lot of cautious, I would say, optimism around that. But when you think about the last several years, and Phil, you've called this out a couple of this, we've been outlooking a potential recession in the back half. And so we've had several years of downturns expected in the back half. I think the improved visibility in '26 is, nobody is talking about that. In fact, I think they're talking about the economy actually strengthening and getting better. And that's always good for renovation work. When the overall economy is doing well, and the uncertainty gets less and less, we see a lot more renovation work. So that's part of the encouragement that we see is that, there is more visibility. Nobody is calling for a recession. Actually, I think people are out looking more positive economic activity, and that gives us against the market out. But I would say, Phil, the biggest driver to a little bit more upbeat here is the traction we're seeing in our growth initiatives. This is what we can control. This is what we have really good visibility on. We have our target list. We know our customer engagement on that. And as Mark highlighted, getting some acceleration in the contribution from our growth initiatives is also really what we're encouraged by, and it's generating a little bit more confidence to get to a positive volume growth, again, as I said earlier, in the first time in a long time. So what Chris is outlining is, I think, very typical in terms of a seasonal impact in the first half, and now we've had some weather events, and we've had time to digest some of that impact and include that in our guide and how we're sequencing at the guide, too. That's really, I think, what both Chris and I have added back and forth to make sure that that's helpful and clear for everybody.

And maybe just to add a little more context to the volume in the first half, Phil, positive, but a slower start to the year volume-wise in Q1.

Got it. Okay. That's helpful color. And then I guess a follow-up on the WAVE earnings outlook, you're calling for mid-single-digit growth, pretty healthy growth considering you're lapping a pretty tough comp in 2025, and it kind of implies that the earnings leverage in WAVE is perhaps even more robust than the overall Mineral Fiber segment. What are some of the building blocks for that momentum in WAVE?

Yes. So as you mentioned, WAVE equity earnings growth for the year is in that mid-single-digit range. But if I just take a step back, Phil, one of WAVE's value creation drivers is that price/cost algorithm to continue to drive that growth through innovation, quality, service, and it's really to drive that growth through disciplined pricing, and there's no change there to your question. That rate that we're talking about here in 2026 is reflective of some short-term operating leverage headwinds on some of the initiatives there in that business. So as those kind of scale that will improve kind of in the short term, and we'll get more traction. And I think overall, from a longer term -- mid- to longer-term perspective, we don't see any change in the equity earnings growth trajectory to get back to that high single-digit range in terms of equity earnings for the WAVE venture.

And that concludes our question-and-answer session. I will now hand the call back over to Vic for any closing remarks.

Thank you. And I appreciate the comments on the call. I really appreciate that. Really thank you all for the coverage and the support of AWI over the last 10 years. And I really, again, want to thank our 4,000 employees for just an outstanding job in transforming the company over the last 10 years. It really, truly has been an honor for me and a privilege to serve as the CEO of Armstrong. And as I step aside, like I said earlier, I'm more confident than ever that the future is bright here at Armstrong. So again, thank you all, and good luck to Mark.

Thanks, Vic.