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Please standby. Your program is about to begin. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to the McGrath RentCorp First Quarter 2025 Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. This conference call is being recorded today, Thursday, April 24, 2025. Before we begin, note that the matters the company manager will be discussing today that are not statements of historical facts are forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995, including statements relating to the company's expectations, strategies, prospects, or targets. These forward-looking statements are not guarantees of future performance and involve significant risks and uncertainties that could cause our actual results to differ materially from those projected. Important factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from the company's expectations are disclosed under Risk Factors, in the company's Form 10-Ks and other SEC filings. Forward-looking statements are made only as of the date hereof, except as otherwise required by law. We assume no obligation to update any forward-looking statements. In addition to the press release issued today, the company also filed with the SEC the earnings release on Form 8-K and its Form 10-Q for the quarter ended March 31, 2025. Speaking today will be Joe Hanna, Chief Executive Officer, and Keith Pratt, Chief Financial Officer. I will now turn the call over to Mr. Hanna. Please go ahead, sir.

Thank you, Jess. Good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for joining us today for McGrath RentCorp First Quarter 2025 Earnings Call. I am pleased to report on our performance over the past quarter and to provide an update on our outlook for this year. I will also address current economic conditions and the possible effects of tariffs on the business. First, I will review our quarterly results. For the quarter, total company revenues increased 4% and adjusted EBITDA increased 3% compared to a year earlier. This performance was driven by continued progress from our modular strategic growth initiatives as well as some recovery at TRS. Mobile Modular's rental revenues grew 3%. Both commercial and education rentals were positive. The commercial wins we experienced were geographically broad-based in a wide variety of market verticals, including government, technology, and healthcare. We continue to win education business in both public and private schools across all our geographies. The architectural billing index data and other macro indicators of construction-related demand continue to indicate some weakness and some project delays. Our quote activity was up for the quarter while new rental bookings were below the prior year due to the softer construction market. This reflects longer close cycles and some mix shift. Sales revenues were lower for the quarter, reflecting typical quarter-to-quarter variability. Our new modular sales growth initiative continued to be on a positive trajectory as we see more acceptance of modular solutions for construction projects across many market segments. Mobile Modular Plus and site-related services performed well and saw healthy increases in the quarter, helping to offset lower units on rent. Turning to our portable storage business, rental revenues declined by 13% in line with what we expected and reflecting ongoing commercial softness. We entered the year with a rental revenue run rate that was below the start of 2024, and it will take some time for it to recover. At TRS RenTelco, rental revenues grew slightly. We had an encouraging start to the year with broad-based improvement across multiple equipment categories. Our rental pipeline is up from the prior year, and some previously delayed projects were started. We have been effectively managing the fleet to maximize opportunities to sell unutilized equipment. Utilization improved substantially to end the quarter at 65%, up from 59% in the fourth quarter. Now let's look at how 2025 is unfolding amidst the uncertainty present in the broader economy. Overall, we expect the impact of tariffs in 2025 to be a limited headwind to the business. As a reminder, we own our fleet, so the investments generating our revenue are substantially made. Cost increases for materials we use to operate the business for repair and maintenance are subject to tariffs are not significant cost drivers, and in some cases, we have purchased ahead, so the 2025 exposure is limited. Our exposure to China tariffs is also limited. At TRS, only 4% of our current rental fleet was sourced from China. At Portable Storage, China is the primary source of new containers, but with current fleet utilization at 60%, we do not expect to make significant new equipment purchases in the near to medium term. We shared on our fourth-quarter call that the key driver for our performance in 2025 will be the demand conditions across all our business segments. At present, we have good activity levels in the field related to current projects. As we look further ahead and into the second half of the year, we have concerns that in the overall market, some companies may be slowing new project starts due to uncertainty around the impact of tariffs, costs, overall economic growth, and possible government spending cuts. We have been very clear in past quarters that our strategic focus is on the modular business and on the implementation of our plans to be a solutions provider to our customers. None of that has changed, nor will it change due to current economic uncertainty. Our Mobile Modular Plus site-related services and custom sales have been good revenue contributors since their launch, and we will continue to work on growing them. Our efforts in increasing revenue per unit are still yielding results, and we believe we have more room to continue that progress. Our expansion into new geographies will continue as we invest to grow the top line responsibly. And finally, we have a robust M&A pipeline that should yield results in future quarters. In looking at the total company, McGrath has a resilient business model. Our broad base of customers and the recurring rental revenues that they drive provide some stability if economic conditions soften. Additionally, if demand declines, we generally incur lower expenses to satisfy customer orders, and we can reduce rental equipment capital spending, which improves cash flow. These dynamics were evident in 2020 as we navigated the COVID pandemic and enabled McGrath to finish 2020 in a healthy financial state despite the unprecedented market disruptions. In closing, McGrath has successfully managed through all sorts of economic challenges for more than forty years, always with a focus on returning value to our shareholders and on our company's sustainability. We have an experienced leadership team, management continuity, and a long-tenured base of team members throughout the company. While the exact economic impact of the current tariff and trade disruptions are not completely clear, I am confident we have the skill set to continue to manage through this latest economic challenge and execute our strategy effectively. As always, we will be working diligently to maximize opportunities to keep the business strong and deliver results for our shareholders. With that, I will turn the call over to Keith, who will take you through the financial details of our quarter and updated outlook for the full year.

Thank you, Joe, and good afternoon, everyone. As Joe highlighted, we delivered solid results in the first quarter, driven primarily by the performance of our Mobile Modular business. Looking at the overall corporate results for the first quarter, total revenues increased 4% to $195.4 million, and adjusted EBITDA increased 3% to $74.5 million. Reviewing Mobile Modular's operating performance, as compared to the first quarter of 2024, Mobile Modular had a strong quarter with adjusted EBITDA increasing 10% to $47.6 million. Total revenues increased 3% to $131.9 million, with 3% higher rental revenues and 22% higher rental-related services revenues, partly offset by 11% lower sales revenues. Rental margins were 60%, up from 57% a year ago, primarily because of the rental revenue growth and the lower inventory center costs. Sales revenues decreased $2.8 million to $22.5 million as a result of lower new and used sales projects during the quarter. Average fleet utilization was 74.6%, compared to 78.7% a year ago. First-quarter monthly revenue per unit on rent increased 8% to $831. For new shipments over the last twelve months, the average monthly revenue per unit increased 12% to $1,194. We continue to make progress with our modular services offerings. Mobile Modular Plus revenues increased to $8.6 million from $7.2 million a year earlier, and site-related services increased to $4.1 million, up from $3.2 million. Turning to the review of portable storage in the first quarter, adjusted EBITDA for portable storage was $8.6 million, a decrease of 25% compared to the prior year. Weak demand conditions continued, primarily because of low commercial construction project activity. Rental revenues for the quarter decreased 13% to $16.1 million, and rental margins were 84%, down from 87% a year earlier. Average rental equipment on rent decreased 10%, while average utilization for the quarter was 60.2%, compared to 69.8% a year ago. Turning now to the review of TRS RenTelco, adjusted EBITDA was $17.9 million, a decrease of 3% compared to last year. Total revenues increased $1.3 million or 4% to $35 million. Rental revenues for the quarter were up slightly at $25.5 million, which was the first quarterly increase since the first quarter of 2023. Average utilization for the quarter was 56.5%, reflecting improved demand conditions and our continued focus on fleet management. Rental margins were 40%, compared to 36% a year ago. Sales revenues increased 17% to $8 million, with gross profit of $3.7 million. The remainder of my comments will be on a total company basis. First-quarter selling and administrative expenses increased 1% to $50.9 million. Interest expense was $8.2 million, a decrease of $4.5 million as a result of lower average interest rates and lower average debt levels during the quarter. The first-quarter provision for income taxes was based on an effective tax rate of 24.6%, compared to 23.6% a year earlier. Turning to our year-to-date cash flow highlights, net cash provided by operating activities was $54 million, compared to $59 million in the prior year. Rental equipment purchases were $12 million, compared to $79 million in the prior year, consistent with lower fleet utilization and our plans to use available fleet to satisfy customer orders. Healthy cash generation allowed us to pay $12 million in shareholder dividends and reduce debt by $31 million. At quarter-end, we had net borrowings of $559 million, comprised of $175 million notes outstanding and $384 million under our credit facility. The ratio of funded debt to the last twelve months' actual adjusted EBITDA was 1.58 to one. While it is difficult to accurately assess the impacts of the tariff and trade policy developments, I will provide several additional comments on the potential impact on McGrath. First, some comments on the demand outlook. Starting with domestic revenues, which account for over 95% of our business, we are more cautious regarding the potential demand strength and upsides for the second half of this year. There are certain examples of construction industry project delays and cancellations that are surfacing in the overall market, and if this becomes more widespread, it could negatively impact our modular and portable storage businesses. Total McGrath International revenues have ranged between 2% and 4% over the past three years and occur in our TRS business. Tariffs may erode the economic attractiveness of some of our international transactions at TRS. Next, some comments on capital spending. Given current utilization levels, we have less need to add new rental equipment this year. Some suppliers of rental equipment are beginning to contemplate tariff-driven price increases with some estimates in the 5% to 15% range. However, some of our spending on rental equipment for 2025 has already been secured, which should limit year. Lastly, operating costs incurred as we maintain our rental fleets may also experience some tariff-driven increases. We are still working to determine the scope and size of increases and how much can be passed along to customers or offset by efficiency and cost management initiatives at McGrath. All of these comments are based on limited information, and our views may change going forward. In summary, our business performance was solid in the first quarter and looks positive for the second quarter. Based on what we know today, we currently expect tariffs and trade policy disruptions to have a relatively limited impact on 2025 financial performance. Our primary concern is that the overall economic uncertainty could result in some delays or fewer rental and sales projects in the second half of the year. So we have updated our full-year financial outlook to reflect this. We currently expect total revenue between $920 million and $960 million, adjusted EBITDA between $343 million and $355 million, and gross rental equipment capital expenditures between $115 million and $125 million. We are fully focused on solid execution for the remainder of 2025. That concludes our prepared remarks. Jess, you may now open the lines for questions.

Thank you, sir. We will go first to Scott Schneeberger with Oppenheimer.

Thanks very much. Good afternoon, all. I guess, Joe and Keith, I will focus my first question on Mobile Modular. The education you mentioned, growth in rental revenue in both categories of commercial and education rentals. On education, what are you seeing as far as order flow for the year? I know this is the time of year where you start to see it for activity later in the year. So just kind of curious in that one category. What kind of indications are you getting thus far?

Sure. I can answer that, Scott. Bookings were just a little bit light for education in the first quarter. But in April, we are starting to see more orders. So the funding dynamics really have not changed. The demand situation really has not changed. And I would say that our education opportunities really do not run concurrently or in conjunction with the general construction-related activity that you see in the market, kind of a separate entity because it relies on funding from local bond measures and state bonds and things like that. None of that has changed. We are expecting to have a good year in education. And the bookings are not yet fully realized yet. So we will see, we will have more to report in the next quarter on that.

Alright. Thanks on that. Could you speak a little bit to project size in the commercial category in Mobile Modular? I imagine the larger projects are where you are seeing the strength, smaller, maybe not so much. But could you just kind of frame that for us since we are seeing indications of a softer macro from third parties and just wondering what you are seeing out there and speaking with your customers. Thanks.

Yes. I would say what you said is accurate, Scott. The larger projects that have been underway are pretty solid. It is the smaller ones that are more, we are getting just more uncertainty from those folks. You know, what is interesting is the activity level is good, there is a lot of inquiries into projects. We are just seeing that some people may be hesitant to pull the trigger on some things, particularly as things go into the second half of the year. So that is kind of where things stand.

So you see demand, you see a pipeline there, you just think that hesitancy could occur in this environment potentially?

Absolutely. The pipelines are really good. Activity is really good. Our quoting activity is good. And as we said in our prepared remarks, the order sizes are a little bit smaller, and that is due to some factors like mix shift as an example. But overall activity is pretty good right now.

Thanks. And then on pricing, on new shipments, over the last twelve months, your monthly revenue per unit, up 12% year over year. That is good. I know it was recent as fourth quarter. It was up percent. Slight deceleration, but that number is up I think, significantly versus a year ago. I am just looking at it plus nine. So, I mean, all very nice numbers. You are still seeing that pricing lift. Anytime I mean, we are seeing a slight deceleration. Any comment on that? My takeaway is it is pretty strong overall. So just if you could dig in a little bit on the pricing environment specifically.

Sure. Well, I think you have summed it up. I think we are doing very well in this area. As you know, pricing can be influenced by many factors, the type of units, the region you are in, the length of the contract. And what you are looking at is a very aggregated number, but it does indicate a couple of things. One is that number has increased over time on new shipments. It reflects healthy movement in base unit pricing. And in addition, adding more services to the contracts. Those are things Joe talked about extensively. We have been working on for the last couple of years. I think every year, we are making more progress in that area and it will continue to be a focus. So that is really positive. And then the other thing that we have noted in the past is newer units are going on at a rate that is well above the sort of legacy installed base average unit on rent number. And so there we absolutely believe there is a positive pricing tailwind there. That over time as the fleet churns, there is an opportunity to get more revenue per unit. From our fleet and that is something we are very focused on.

Brilliant. And Keith, would you agree? I think the difference new shipments over the last twelve months, monthly revenue per unit, versus your total fleet units on rent, monthly revenue per unit, it is over 40% higher than recent deliveries. So even if you made no more deliveries going forward, you would still have an implied double-digit pricing lift, on conversion. Is that an accurate way to talk about that?

Yeah. I think that is a reasonable way to look at it. There is a big gap. It is over 40% and churn causes us to reset pricing and in that way, churn gives us a revenue lift. And I think it is only fair to point out as we noted in the prepared remarks, I mean, offset here is fewer units on rent, and we have seen some pressure. You will see our utilization has drifted slightly lower and that reflects 4% lower units on rent in the first quarter. So making really nice progress on the revenue per unit. The headwind is that in the current more sluggish commercial construction environment, we are seeing fewer units on rent. And again, that is something we have been dealing with not for multiple quarters and we have commented on last year as well as this year. So that is just the one challenge area that I think many players are dealing with. But we are very pleased with what we are accomplishing in terms of revenue per unit on rent. And with the revenue for new shipments.

Understood. Thanks for that. I am going to spin over to TRS and then move on. A nice step up in rental revenue, I think, first time in a couple of years. Can you just elaborate on what you are seeing with regard to demand trends and what you are hearing? Is this a potential hiccup or head fake? Or do you feel that there is maybe something behind this?

Yeah. I do not think it is a blip or anything. Of the things that we commented on in prior quarters was the weakness in the semiconductor and computer part of the business. That was actually up very nicely in the quarter. And the reason is that customers are telling us the projects that have been delayed are actually starting. And so we are really glad to see that and we think that trend will continue.

And then just be remiss if I did not ask on the guidance overall. I mean, just you trimmed it slightly and I heard a lot of, you know, cautionary about uncertainty in the back half of the year. It does not sound like you have much direct exposure to tariffs. It does not sound like that is a concern. And with your utilization levels, you do not need the tap market spending CapEx right now. So it is really just your customers that you are worried about. Is this a get ahead of it? Cut? Or is this because you are hearing a lot from your customers about, hey. Yeah. We are really nervous, and is that what is driving it? Thanks.

Yeah. It is a really good question, Scott. And probably the way to answer it is we are dealing here with a very fluid situation. There is a lot we do not know. But the way I would frame it is as follows. If we looked at the world in February, you know, we felt pretty good about our start to the year. You may recall we had good quoting activity. In the month of January all across the business. And here we are, it is April. And particularly in the last handful of weeks, both the speculation around tariff policy and then some of the announcements and then some of the churning all of that we are concerned about creating more uncertainty. And when we look at where we are finding our data, a lot of this is in the trade press. It is some things you can go out and find and read. It is not so much directly our business. Experiencing really any cancellations that we are aware of. And really no major delays that any different from what we have seen over the last year or so. I think the difference is we are concerned that customers who are planning things they may take longer to take action. And as you appreciate in any rental business, it makes a difference to us whether it is a rental project begins in June or gets pushed to September because it limits how much rental revenue we are going to earn this year on that transaction. And in a similar vein, if we take a sales project, where there may be a lot of work that goes into the planning of that project and a lot of back and forth with the customer. We know those projects, especially the larger ones, take many months to bring to fruition. So if we lose a few months in this early part of the year with people hesitating or holding back, then projects we might have thought would happen in September, October of this year, they might get pushed into the first quarter of next year. So all of that could have some impact on our results. As you can tell from the shift in the guide, it is a very minor shift. But it is more an acknowledgment on our part that the journey this year is just a little bit more uncertain and probably a little bit more challenging than what we thought a couple of months ago. That is really the net of it.

Thanks. Appreciate that answer. I will turn it over, guys. Thanks very much.

We will move next to Daniel Moore with CJS Securities.

Thank you. Joe and Keith, thanks for the color and taking the questions. Just going through and see which were not covered yet. So TRS, great to see uptick year over year in Q1. Is that sustainable given kind of your modest more cautious outlook overall? Do you expect that maybe things to revert a little bit back given in H2 from a year over year perspective? Any color there?

Yes. I think, yes, so go ahead, Keith. You want to take this one?

Yes, sure. Just a couple of thoughts, Dan, and here is the way I would sort of paint the picture with our journey so far. And in all of this, what I really stress is it is April, and so there is still a long way to go. But I think in looking at that business, as we looked at how things went in January, to February, to March and even into this, you know, quarter or month to date in April, there has been a really nice solid progression with the business momentum. And as we shared in some of our disclosure, pretty broad-based as well. It is not relying on one single thing. So that is really, really encouraging. And I think under normal circumstances, we would look at that business and you will recall back in February, that is a business where we just thought adjusted EBITDA this year is probably going to be comparable to what it was last year. Absent all of this sort of turbulence that we are going through, I would be feeling like that business can do better for 2025 than we thought. However, when we look at where we are today, I just think we are sort of curbing our enthusiasm just a little. Despite those really good things that have happened in the first three and a half months and just acknowledging that, well, second half of the year could just throw a couple of unexpected or unknown impacts on us. So there is just a little bit of caution there. But that is a great example where we are going to be tracking that one. We may have a different view in July. But we are trying to give us, or trying to give you a sense of our thinking as it stands today. Great start. Really also starting nicely in the second quarter. And second half of the year, there is more unknowns. And just as a reminder, that is a business which churns very quickly. Shorter rentals, shorter terms, so the business is recreating itself every few months. And so really, second half of the year, it is just too early to tell. We will know more in July.

No, that is great color. Very helpful. I will jump back over to portable storage. Given the lingering on revenue you have done, if we looked at the back half of last year, a remarkable job maintaining margins. You know, this quarter, a little bit more pressure. So help me think about how do you expect to be able to align on margins, you know, for the next few quarters? Getting more of kind of thinking more year over year rather than Q1 as a comp? Or does it get more difficult if the conditions in revenue deteriorate further?

Yes. And again, just big picture on that part of the business. As we pointed out, and Joe said it in his remarks, we started this year with a much lower run rate than we had at the beginning of 2024. So that is the big challenge area. I think Q1 played out as we expected. I think if you look at the detail, in terms of margins, you will see some pressure on rental-related services. That is an area where we have looked at it hard. We see some people in the industry are using not rental rate on the unit, but delivery, fees, and other items. To sharpen their pencil on completing transactions. I think we are looking at ways to recover some of the lost margin there ourselves. We can do some things operationally but looking to protect the overall rental rate pricing as best we can and be smart about how we handle the delivery and pickup side of things as well. So looking at the big picture, I do not think there is going to be more margin pressure there. I think we are pricing smartly in this environment. And we are looking at the delivery side and the pickup side to be efficient and smart about how we minimize any loss of margin in the area. So, what you have seen is probably in line with what we are going to see for the next couple of quarters. We will be working hard to try and improve upon it, but it is going to be gradual.

Helpful. In that vein, are you looking to step up sales or divestments of portable storage units given the or you know, you tend to sort of hold on to what we have now? How do you think about managing utilization going forward? And is there a market for them right now?

Sure. Well, a couple of things I would point out. Number one, we have got a really high-quality fleet. A lot of the fleet originated is what in the industry we call one trippers, mostly from China. And so they are great pieces of equipment and they have very long useful life. So the real distinction here is it is an asset class that should age gracefully. And so there is no pressing need to take urgent action in the next six months or this year. Very different from our electronics business where you have got all the technology changes that mean you have to actively manage that fleet. So just to give you a really contrasting way to look at it. And just as in electronics where we saw some challenges, our team did a really fantastic job over multiple quarters of shrinking the fleet while they continue to do well in the market winning business. It is different in portable storage. We probably have more units than we need. Across multiple geographies, but we are working hard to put them to work. It may take more than a year, but that is not a reason to sell fleet today. And then in a couple of years, you need to buy it all back. And another example of an area where we have some insulation from tariff risk because we own the fleet and we have some spare capacity. So, that is where we stand today and that is how we are looking at it.

Yeah. I will just add in there. Yeah. I will just add in there too. We are happy to sell units if we have the opportunity. So where utilization is low, we will sell fleet if we need to. Or have the chance to do it.

Makes sense. One or two more. You are already leaning into, you know, refurbishing more existing units rather than acquiring new ones. And it sounds in your prepared remarks, certainly sounds like you are continuing to move in that direction or is that something you have or likely accelerate that, you know, the CapEx guide ticked a little bit lower but how are you kind of thinking that beyond the next quarter or two?

Yeah. I think similar to what we said in February, it is a good way for us to meet demand. It is our preferred way from a free cash flow point of view. It is a very smart way to operate the business. So no real change in our general approach there from what we said back in February.

Helpful. Last one. Similar to Scott's question, you gave great color, so maybe it is beating a dead horse. But you mentioned a limited impact from tariffs. And then you also mentioned, if the weakness becomes more widespread, could I guess the question is, if it does, would that likely drag on kind of lower end of guidance? Or are you already contemplating some incremental weakness in the revised ranges?

Yes. Again, I will go back to all the comments that we made earlier. We tried to step you through all the moving parts of demand reminding everyone that we are primarily domestic, and where the cost impact could be. There could be a little bit in CapEx, but on the other hand, this is not a big CapEx year for us. Given where utilization is at. And then on the operating expense side, there are certainly rumblings of, you know, paying a bit more for certain grades of steel or certain types of lumber. But, again, that is limited impact, I think, in 2025. Some of it was materials we have on hand or we have placed orders for. I think any impact comes later in the year. And really, big picture here is just a little bit more caution or concern that customers may move more slowly in their decision-making and their initiation of projects, given this backdrop of macro uncertainty. Hopefully, there is very little of it. We would be delighted and we would love to, you know, have a great year. But again, our view today compared to two months ago is a bit more caution. It is an issue for the second half of the year, not the first half of the year.

Moving next to Steven Ramsey with Thompson Research Group.

To start with on Mobile Modular Plus, it continues to be strong and the growth on a percentage basis outpacing revenue per unit and new shipment growth rate. Can you talk about operational progress here? That the sales team is making and market acceptance and customers wanting more of what you are offering.

Sure. Yeah. Our customers like our offerings. We are very flexible with them in terms of the different offerings that we give them because we do not actually own the equipment and we can re-rent it and we are able to get them specifically what they need for each of their applications. So the acceptance is good. We are doing a much better job with our sales team in terms of integrating those offerings in with each of our rentals. It is a priority in the business, and we are making traction with that as each quarter progresses. So I have been very pleased with how things are going and we are going to continue on that trajectory.

Okay. That is helpful. And then thinking about the market kind of slower local projects, but then bigger projects. Being better at least relative to local. How are sales how is the sales team adapting its approach to capture that opportunity? And does it heighten the focus even to grow Modular Plus or site-related in this kind of environment?

Yeah. Absolutely. I mean, we are, you know, fortunately, we have folks that are in close proximity to our customers. So if it is a large project, we are all over it. If it is a smaller project, we are also all over it. So I do not see any problems there with getting the Salesforce motivated to go after either one of those types of projects. So we have got all our folks who are highly motivated to make their commissions, they are out there knocking on the doors in front of the customers. I think we are doing a pretty good job of that.

Okay. That is helpful. And then on modular RRS, reflects modular units going on and off rent, but site-related services is mostly tied to units starting a contract if my understanding there is correct. But can you talk about how site-related is growing at such a strong rate despite the volume headwind in the modular segment?

Yeah. Our site-related services actually can be a pretty substantial part of a project. And so right now, they are kind of more lumpy as we continue to get traction there. But we are, you know, you could have a million-dollar sale project that has a million dollars with site-related services that accompany it. So that is, as you said, it is correctly is revenues that we recognize in our rental-related services line. And actually, some of those site-related services could be on a dismantle. A lot of them are when the project goes in, but sometimes there are things that need to when a project comes out. And so we can book revenues for those, for the ending of the project too.

Okay. And then when you think about customer hesitation or general customer sentiment and how it impacts the balance of the year, potentially being negative. Do you expect this lowered sentiment to bring down the potential growth rates of the Modular Plus and the site-related revenue through the balance of the year, those two revenue components being moderated? Or would you say it is in other parts of the business?

Yeah, it is a good question. And here is the way I think about it. This is all about how many new activations we get. So if we were to experience, you know, customers moving more slowly or more deliberately, and the pacing of new shipments slowing down relative to maybe what we saw a year ago or two years ago? I think that makes it more challenging to grow things like Plus and site-related services. And to some extent, we have already been there. You know, if you look back at the last few quarters, the construction backdrop has been one with some challenges. So the issue is, does it incrementally become a little tougher? It could, and if it did, it would make growing those items a little bit harder. But I think it is important to sort of zoom out and say, these are longer-term initiatives, and, you know, the battle is neither won nor lost. At December thirty-first of this year. It is really a multiyear journey where these are things we do because we think they provide value to customers. We think that we can do them well. And we think we are on a journey that is going to be a positive one over the long haul. So that is sort of the way we think about it internally.

Okay. That is helpful. And then last one for me. You talked about geographic expansion being a priority. Maybe can you clarify some of the nuances for that in 2025, your priority between geographic focus, customer focus, product between storage and modular, and then maybe high level, how much of that is organic driven versus M&A driven?

Sure. It is a good question. Our geographic expansion opportunity and focus this year is important. We are not going to see a whole lot of revenue gains this year because we are putting some of that infrastructure in place. But when you, you know, populate markets with new sales reps, and additional sales power and infrastructure, that is something that is important to us. It is a focus. And we will see some results this year, but more in the future as we continue to get traction there. So and most of that is the geographic expansion. I mean, most of our that we can control, of course, is organic. But if we can backfill or add or further densify a market by doing an M&A transaction, we will absolutely do that. So I would say they are both important to us. And we are excited to see progress this year in both of those categories.

Okay. That is great. Thank you for all the color.

Thank you. We will go next to Mark Riddick with Sidoti.

Hey, good evening.

Hey, Lawrence. So I wanted to follow up on that because in your prepared remarks, you had made some mention or commentary around some of the around acquisition pipeline, maybe you can sort of talk a little bit about how that is going maybe and maybe how you might be looking at that and tie that into cash usage. I mean, with the it is a good time to have a lower debt level. Of course, you are now below 1.6 times on leverage. So maybe you could sort of, you know, marry those two and talk about types of opportunities that may have come to fruition over the last few months and maybe what drove that?

Yes. There are some larger opportunities that are out there. We have dialogue and relationships with folks in the industry that we think would be good potential transactions for us. Not only on the larger side, but also in terms of our tuck-in activity too. So we are out in the market. We are talking to people. We have a pipeline of folks that we are talking to that are showing interest. We hope to close some of those in 2025. And so it has been an active market and one where we want to be at the table. To add to our rental revenues and add to our offerings that we have. So important part of the business for us. And Mark, you touched on it, our leverage is really appropriate for us to do smart M&A. We have some dry powder to do that. So we are really happy about that.

Excellent. And then last one for me. Was sort of curious as to maybe where you comfort level as to talent, that do you do you see yourself needing to do in the way of hiring? How comfortable are you with talent levels? Are there any areas that you would like to add to or maybe we should be keeping an eye for? Thanks.

Sure. I mean, we have been hiring. We put off a number of hires last year due to the merger. The pending merger. When that was terminated, we started right back in again, and we have not had problems hiring people. So the market has been pretty good. We are getting the talent that we need, and we are very pleased with the quality and type of candidates that are available out there. So it has been a good opportunity for us.

That is encouraging to hear. Thank you very much.

Thank you, Mark.

And ladies and gentlemen, that appears to be the last question. Let me now turn the call back over to Mr. Hanna for any closing remarks.

I would like to thank everyone for joining us on the call today and for your continuing interest in the company.